up date Dwarfism

[mijke]

Thanks!

[Nebulosa]

I know that in Spain have also some dogs wich have chrop pretty close or linebreeded in its line, maybe will be good I translate to spain?

[freewild]

hi

so so interresting information

if you like i would translate this topic

[Hanka]

Mijke, you have "interest" email from me

[Rona]

Impressing job!!! Well done Mijke

[Hanka]

Mijke,
I am very courious how much breeders will write you: "in my litter was this puppy too".

[mijke]

Originally Posted by Nebulosa

I know that in Spain have also some dogs wich have chrop pretty close or linebreeded in its line, maybe will be good I translate to spain?

It would be great if you want to translate this info

Originally Posted by freewild

hi

so so interresting information if you like i would translate this topic

Somebody did offer me last week to translate in French, but I still did not receive it …
But I’’l be glad when I have a translation for the French forum

@ Everyone: Feel free to translate this topic in your own language
It is interesting for all in CsW breed

Originally Posted by Hanka

Mijke,
I am very courious how much breeders will write you: "in my litter was this puppy too".

The breeder of the dwarf I know also did not do this.
But maybe more people like me, did meet by accident a dwarf CsW

And maybe there are honest breeders that recognise photo’s and will inform me.
And I’ll keep their info very confidential!
Because nobody needs to know who was the dog (or the breeder) with whom we could validate the test!!

Because that is not interesting at all!
The only thing is that we can validate the test.

And when we have validate the test and it also works for CsW, everyone can decide by there selves if they want to test or not

[solowolf]

Originally Posted by mijke

Thanks!

Ama retto is in u.k. i know she was sold on and that she has been neutered as she was to small and not suitable to breed from, it could be possable to get sample from her,, i have photo of this litter suckling from bessi blue at 3 weeks old all pups are of good size and equal, however they never made good height at 1 yr old, i also have photos, will send thenm to you via email,, pacino

[mijke]

Originally Posted by solowolf

Ama retto is in u.k. i know she was sold on and that she has been neutered as she was to small and not suitable to breed from, it could be possable to get sample from her,,

Dogs that don't have the right size for a CSW (to small) are not really dwarfs.
So Utrecht don't need EDTA blood of them

[mijke]

I did receive the CD of Paul. I did hope it had something to do something with this topic.
But the info on this CD is not relevant at all for this topic.
So I’ll not give any comment on this CD in this topic.

[solowolf]

Originally Posted by mijke

I did receive the CD of Paul. I did hope it had something to do something with this topic.
But the info on this CD is not relevant at all for this topic.
So I’ll not give any comment on this CD in this topic.

now i am confused you seen c.d. you state you know of only one CWS dwarf result of mating between Chrop and Besi blue, the father of ZAZI zen is beyound any doubt Chrop this is direct link into Saarloos lines of dog that produced dwarf, ZAZI ZEN has produced 33 offspring that i know about and are registered as saarloos, plus he has brothers and sisters who will also be carriers, Chrop has produced numerous pups all registered CWS and this has nothing to do with this topic???? to day i spoke to one Dutch friend, one German and one French we all agreed the same, it is by reading the posts on this site that others have or had already lots of the evidence on the cd, we dont trust the dutch kennel club people anymore as they take to long, it is like big personal vendetta against corrie and that they dont give a dam about the dogs, if things had of been done by these people and others on this site who have stated they already know things then maybe the sad photos you have put up of these poor animals could of been avoided, and before you all hit back , it also includes me and my friends for we now know others have taken no action, we trusted people who we thought were working hard on a case, seems they were just waiting for more ill pups to appear for more evidence against corrie, so today we all from our different countries posted all our statements direct to FCI, Mijke you state little Xcenater Arnie is dead when did you know this ? is he dead or moved on? give me date that you know Arnie is dead from, as i have date from someone who knows this dog and he was alive and kicking last time they visit, for we always ask how the little guy is doing,,,,, i wish to god i never had listened to people from Dutch kennel club or trusted them, and every one else who now says they already knew all this for they are as guilty as the rest of us for letting it go on, so no more Im doing my bit for the breed as seen on this site, write what you know and send it to the FCI,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,it is the animals who suffer because we have all done nothing about it, i give some information on this site and because i trusted the dutch kennel club people i could not tell you all on line, as they told me it could affect there case, so i took all the crap because i refused to say or explain my self, and i did deserve it, but now that you admit on line nothing in the cd except for few dogs was new to you,,, THEN WHY DID YOU NOT TELL OTHER PEOPLE I SPOKE THE TRUTH, WHY DID YOU NOT TELL ON LINE OF WHAT YOU KNEW, for you have also stated you will not hide things,,,, but now you state you already know most of it,???????? please now explain to use all WHY YOU DO NOTHING ABOUT IT ???? very dissapointed and disheartened Pacino and friends....more than you will ever know......I realy cant get my head round that you and others already knew of all this,,,dont reply i am finnished with you people .....

[solowolf]

Originally Posted by mijke

Dogs that don't have the right size for a CSW (to small) are not really dwarfs.
So Utrecht don't need EDTA blood of them

so what your saying it dosnt matter if they are carrier ???? pacino