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Old 28-01-2009, 23:58   #1
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Mikael; the dog i think you are speaking about is x-rayed, and x-rays is here by me, (still) even the dog is not owned by me. Vet took the x-rays , and we didn't send it to kennelclub, reason why, you can read from above i wrote about it just.

In fact, offspring of this female is x-rayed (abroad ) with good results.
Is your dog x-rayed already?

If i look up the pedigrees of my own dogs, (imported) there is lot of missing info about HD results from ancestors, even i think most of them must be x-rayed. (rules for origin countries)
And in fact, i am interested about many more things in the dogs than only hips, or show / workingresults.

Momentally i do not have time to keep up personal database about x-rays, or any other results, (except my own dogs, or dogs from me) even i would like to..

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Old 29-01-2009, 00:40   #2
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Mikael; the dog i think you are speaking about is x-rayed, and x-rays is here by me. (still) Vet took the x-rays , and we didn't send it to kennelclub, reason why, you can read from above i wrote about it just.

In fact, offspring of this female is x-rayed (abroad ) with good results.
Is your dog x-rayed already?
-Suski
I do not blame you or your kennel Suski...my report to the Fkk is not about you !!!

No, Hronec has no x-ray yet, but the legal mater is not exactly about him...But I will x-ray him very sone, when he is about 18 month old. But if he is A/A or not has nothing to do whit the legal mater...

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Old 01-02-2009, 19:59   #3
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Vet took the x-rays , and we didn't send it to kennelclub, reason why, you can read from above i wrote about it just.

-Suski
Is there no way to do a Penn Hip X-ray in Finland ???

That way the result will be more exact as I understand it,
and (no) judgement but a measurement instead.

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Old 04-02-2009, 20:44   #4
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Is there no way to do a Penn Hip X-ray in Finland ???

That way the result will be more exact as I understand it,
and (no) judgement but a measurement instead.

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No, there was no Penn-Hip vet in Finland

Nearest is in Sweden, Poland, Denmark or Germany...www.pennhip.org
But I think that F.C.I law say you must X-ray in your own contry ???

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Old 04-02-2009, 21:25   #5
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Hi, yes you must x-ray in "home-country" BUT you are allowed to send the pictures to another country for checking.. I know because some other breeders with "rare" breed in Finland have sent their pictures for checking to a country where they know "more" about the breed.
A woman working for finnish kennelclub told me that this is a possibility.
For breeding Czw in finland you don't need to have x-rayed dogs. Finnish kennelclub don't demand it.
But of course I will x-ray my own dogs so that I know they are healthy. And I know every good breeder do x-ray their dogs and think of future health.

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Old 04-02-2009, 21:55   #6
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Hi, yes you must x-ray in "home-country" BUT you are allowed to send the pictures to another country for checking.. I know because some other breeders with "rare" breed in Finland have sent their pictures for checking to a country where they know "more" about the breed.

A woman working for finnish kennelclub told me that this is a possibility.

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Thanks fore the answer Jenny
Maby this is something fore all CsV breeder in Finland to do...
If Fkk is no good at X-ray photos and they wont a official HD result ???

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Old 04-02-2009, 23:16   #7
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Mikael, there is momentally 2 CsV breeders in Finland.
As far as i know, matings made in Finland,
dogs are x-rayed, at least unofficially.
Please, remember, that dog is more than only hips.
And, dysplasy can cause from "bad owner" too.
If dog is too fat, feeded badly,
wrong excercise in very young age and so on..
So, let's take care about the breed totality.
And, once again, let's take care about new owners as well. This is not breed for everyone.

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Old 06-02-2009, 18:22   #8
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Mikael, there is momentally 2 CsV breeders in Finland.
As far as i know, matings made in Finland,
dogs are x-rayed, at least unofficially.
Please, remember, that dog is more than only hips.

-Suski
Unofficially x-rays has no value in Finland or in any other country nether, a specially not for a puppy buyer…

Reason
1, The vet is not approved x-ray specialist.
2, You might know the vet in person, you are a vet or work as a vetassistance.
3, It is to easy to fake a unofficial x-ray.

And as far as I know by talking to the Fkk, vets in Finland are not allowed by law to give unofficial x-ray results neither…

And yes, I know and agree that other things are important fore breeding to, but that does not make HD x-rays less important, and as far as I know it is the biggest health problem on the CsV breed…

If Fkk is the problem as you clearly are saying, way not do as Jenny Backman suggest, and send the x-ray to a another country fore evaluation ??? if now Fkk think it is OK !!!

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