Stud dogs - IMPORTANT!!!!

[Mikael]

I do not mean that all CsV that get mated need to have a Bonitation,
I only think that the ones that are on the Stud Dog list here on Wolfdog.org are to be,
just like the Stud dogs in CZ and SL.

And especially the ones that take many many offspring’s,
and will effect the breed allot in the future...

Very best regards / Mikael

[wolfin]

hej, not speak about "peace in world", but antswer in me concret question and speak about concret situation.
p.s. when i be younger and I think similar, but yet know who be real situation

[Mikael]

Originally Posted by wolfin

hej, not speak about "peace in world", but antswer in me concret question and speak about concret situation.
p.s. when i be younger and I think similar, but yet know who be real situation

I do not speak of a impossible thing here I just say I think ALL Stud dogs
are to have a Bonitation code, if you think differently it is up to you.

But as I did say, if a breeder can travel long way to mate I do not se any reasen way they can not travel to Bonitate, and now I´m talking about Europe (inkluding the UK) not N & S America, I understand they will not Bonitate and have there own list of Studs...

Best regards / Mikael

[Margo]

Originally Posted by Mikael

I do not speak of a impossible thing here I just say I think ALL Stud dogs are to have a Bonitation code, if you think differently it is up to you.

I agree with admin... If we will add bonitation I think before we have to add as requirement also ED-results (because it is about health), any working results (because it is about the character) and SVP1 made with the excellent note (because it is thebest check if the dog has typical body). Can someone check how many stud dogs will be still on the list if we will make it?

Mikael - bonitation is a GREAT thing but ONLY if it made by an EXPERT. In the last time there are people (even if the are CzW club judges) which make the BASIC faults during the judgement and have not the brightest idea how to make CORECT bonitation measurements. Sorry but in many cases the bonitation code is a parody. Says NOTHING about the dog... I can show you dogs which by an EXPERT will be P14 (disqualified) but get P1!!!!
WHEN we have more judges which really knows what the bonitation is about and there will be no need to travel 1000 or 2000km to make it... no problem... But so far we have to set up the rules which everybody can fulfil in his own country.

[Mikael]

Originally Posted by Margo

I agree with admin... If we will add bonitation I think before we have to add as requirement also ED-results (because it is about health), any working results (because it is about the character) and SVP1 made with the excellent note (because it is thebest check if the dog has typical body). Can someone check how many stud dogs will be still on the list if we will make it?

Mikael - bonitation is a GREAT thing but ONLY if it made by an EXPERT. In the last time there are people (even if the are CzW club judges) which make the BASIC faults during the judgement and have not the brightest idea how to make CORECT bonitation measurements. Sorry but in many cases the bonitation code is a parody. Says NOTHING about the dog... I can show you dogs which by an EXPERT will be P14 (disqualified) but get P1!!!!
WHEN we have more judges which really knows what the bonitation is about and there will be no need to travel 1000 or 2000km to make it... no problem... But so far we have to set up the rules which everybody can fulfil in his own country.

OK, thanks fore your answer.

But I think that we must trust the Bonitation codes,
if we do not the Bonitation system vill collapse, and we will be left whit only show results

And I do not think it is so hard fore a breeder in Europe to go to a Bonitation on holiday if they wont to have a Stud dog in production...

But I also think ED is to be a good demand fore the Stud dogs...

Very best regards / Mikael