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20-02-2009, 20:46
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Sanctions?
 NO. It is only JUSTICE. And FAIRNESS towards all honest breeders which not only think about themselves (about selling puppies, advertising their kennels) but also arer able to do something for other people (like sharing the information). ALL breeders who advertise their litters and kennels on Wolfdog.org agree to send us the information later. And collecting and sending the information about one litter takes only about 10 minuts! It is really so much?  How could you call something SANCTION if the person agreed with the rules? We forced NOBODY to advertise litters on Wolfdog. People make it because it is the best way to find good puppy buyers. We don't ASK you ANY money!!! Only some information. I really have enough of sending emails to breeders asking for information. I have NO problem with people who forget something. But there are breeders who remember about Wolfdog and LOVE this site ONLY when they have something for sell... I have enough of critics from such people who only criticize but NEVER send any information. NO - it is not sanction. With the most breeders we have never any problems, I will not remove anybody because he forget to send one name or one date of birth. And these last topics have NO influence on the fair and responsible breeders. We will say only "goodbye" to breeders who care only for themselve... and are not even able to fulfil the condition which they PROMISED (DECLATED) to fulfil...!
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20-02-2009, 22:44
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Ok with the rules Margo...
... but when I read your post about rules, I seems you are going to enter a real "hunt of sorcerers", and all points seem to be so strict than the most of breeders could be putted out... You precised well you idea in your answer... and that look no so strict as in the other posts... In that way, each breeder, and members, which understand rules, could keep the feelings of its small work to build the so famous wolfdog.org database and website value.
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20-02-2009, 23:03
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Just wait after 22.03....
 You will see breeders who since over one year (or longer) do not answer my emails but within few days will realize that their kennels is gone.... People who do not answer simply questions will "discover" that they speak English very well... Other will start to write just in the moment when they will have a new litter...
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22-02-2009, 15:42
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These new rules on the Wolfdog.org site are a super thing!!!!! For the people raising the race but also the proof a minimum of serious of the stockbreeders present and announcing their range… Me I cannot say a great cheer for this work and thank you for these formidable work tools which is Wolfdog.org
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Attendez donc après le 22.03.... Vous allez voir des éleveurs qui depuis plus d´un an (ou plus) ne répondent pas à mes emails mais dans quelques jours vont réaliser que leurs élevages sont parti....Des gens qui ne répondent pas aux questions simples vont "découvrir" qu´ils parlent très bien l´anglais... D´autres commenceront à écrire exactement au moment où ils auront une nouvelle nichée...
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de même, tous les chiens dont je suis propriétaire ..... Je l'ai même d'ailleurs demandé par le passé, sans que ce soit fait !!! .... Ca ne me cause aucun problème et ce n'est pas celà, qui d'un coup, va me permettre de parler anglais ou chinois ..... WD n'exsite que par les éleveurs ou les propriétaires, qui à la base, acceptent que leur chiens ou leur élevage figurent dessus ! WD n'est pas une fin en soi, surtout quand on constate au fils du temps toutes les erreurs accumulées qui n'ont jamais été rectifiées !!!! Je n'ai jamais vendu de chiotS grace à WD et je dirai même, que C'EST PLUTOT LE CONTRAIRE ! Certains se font un malin plaisir à me salir et trainer dans la boue via les MP échangés sur ce Forum d'hypocrites !.... Vous seriez bien menteuse Margo de prétendre que vous m'avez écris personnellement DES mails, pour me demander quoi que se soit depuis 1 an ..... Par contre, j'ai MOI, à plusieurs reprises, écris directement sur WD qu'il y avait des erreurs continuelles sur le nom de mes chiens, leur propriétaire, leur photos prises sur mon Site sans mon autorisation, leurs résulats d'expo SANS QUE CELA CHANGE QUOI QUE CE SOIT !!!!! Il y a même des mariages annoncés en 2008, qui n'ont même jamais existés !!!!!! Où allez vous chercher celà ???? Alors N'HESITEZ PAS MARGO ! Commencez par mon Elevage, vous gagnerez du temps !!!! Last edited by Lorry - MLS; 23-02-2009 at 12:56. |
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A l'attention de Margo
Je constate que mon élevage à été retiré de la liste des éleveurs français et je vous remercie d'avoir donné suite à ma demande dans ce sens. Par contre, je vous rappelle ci-dessous, les termes EXACTS de mon précédent Post à ce sujet que vous semblez avoir zappé ! Quote:
J'ai constaté avec une certaine surprise, que vous aviez, EN REALITE, conservé "en voie de garage" l'ensemble de mon cheptel .....photos incluses ! Or, je ne vois pas l'utilité de vous laisser l'usage d'élements, concernant MON ELEVAGE , alors même que ce dernier n'est plus référencé sur ce Site.... Que les choses soient claires : MON CHEPTEL ou tout ce qui ressort de mon élevage, de mon nom, de mon affixe, n'a pas convenance et utilité à servir les desseins et objectifs de VOTRE base de données personnelle !!!! C'est un choix libre de paraitre ou non sur ce Site, en aucun cas une obligation .... Or mon choix, est de ne plus paraitre de quelque façon et truchement que ce soit ! Aussi, je vous conseilles vivement d'enlever l'ensemble de tout ce qui touche A MON ELEVAGE ..... Je vous le demande de façon trés officielle et vous conseilles de prendre cette demande trés au sérieux et d'y donner une suite rapide .... Last edited by Lorry - MLS; 05-03-2009 at 15:53. |
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Sorry but I can not understand your attitude... if someone can be angry and feel abused it apply only to US... For many years you was using this site and giving nothing "back". Really UNFAIR behaviour towards ALL CzW owners who build this site....!
We spent a lot of time and a lot of money to provide service like Wolfdog.org. Many people work on it sacrifiycing their time to make this service better. Do you think you behaviour towards us and all the people who work here is fair? NO! Since many years you was using the pages to advertise your kennel and litters, since three years you do not send us NOTHING! Even if the rules for free advertising of litters are clear: http://www.wolfdog.org/php/modules.p...g=fra&a=litter Read again the 7. and 8 again. You know it very well. You AGREED! to this. But still you never sent ANY info about your litters. Do you think it was FAIR???? To use the service when you know you will not do ANYTHING what you PROMISED to do. That you will not fulfil the conditions you AGREED to fulfil? You write some dog names from your kennel are wrong? But did you EVER send ANY corrections? NO! You write some info is wrong but if you will not sent us information what we have to fix you have also no RIGHT to be angry on us that it is wrong. About the informations - I'm surprised that you are so angry that your kennel is no more on the list. DO YOU WONDER? Please tell me one reason why your kennel name should be still there? Why should we do something for you if you do NOTHING for the site (beside critics, critics and critics). I wrote it really clear - breeders who will send us the information will stay on this list - and any personal "LIKE/DON'T LIKE" doesnt matter here!! You didn't do this - I didn't received from you ANY information about your litters. So YOU are the only person who is responsible for it that your kennel is no more listed there. NOBODY ELSE. Since you are not sending us the information about your litters we publish the information which we get from CBEI, SCC, show catalagues and other official sources. We add also information sent by the dog owners and published on the web pages. Sorry but this information do not BELONG to you - you are not the "owner" of the information about your litters. You are also not the onwer of official published information and also not the owner of dogs which belong to someone else. If the information we have is wrong you can only CORRECT IT. But we will consent of course to your request to remove all your personal data. I will remove your address, web page address and email of your kennel from the database during the next update. If you want we will also remove the photos of the dogs which were made by YOU - it means with your copyrights. You do not have the right to ask us to remove photos of dogs which come from your kennel but were made by other people - for example the many photos of the 'D'-litter of the dogs which are living in Italy. Because the OWNERS of these photos are people who take them - it means not YOU but the OWNERS of this dogs! So now short: YOU are responsible for the whole situation. We fulfiled your part and advertised your litters and kennel. YOU do not fulfiled your conditions. Please do not blame US for YOUR mistakes and ill will. If you are angry because of wrong dog names, or other data - send the email with correction. It is the ONLY way to fix it. If you will not do this it will be only YOUR fault that the wrong info is stilll there. If you want that we remove YOUR photos please send me the ID numbers of photos made by YOU. And I promise you after the next update I will remove YOUR personal data from the database. Funny - I was thinking after the database update I will get some (maybe angry) emails of people who were removed by mistake. But I never expected to have complains from people who INTENTIONALLY were breaking the rules and were cheating with us but now feel PERSECUTED and take this regulations as SANCTIONS against their kennels. It is so STRANGE....
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