Elbow Dysplasia

[Juniorwolf]

Originally Posted by Admin

I will answer all posts later - anyway small corection. I see you do not know what are the levels of HD and ED....

HD-A and HD-B are HEALTHY dogs. HD-A mean excellent hips and HD-B "not quite perfect but healthy".

The descriptions by ED are DIFFERENT. ED-0 is for healthy hips. ED-1 is already DISPLATIC dogs with light displasia.

Simply said:

ED-1 = HD-C

(and not like you think ED-1 = HD-B)

I am very impressed about your knowledge of what I know and what I think

Explanation from the Danish expert who I mentioned earlier is quite different than your statement :
HD B = light dysplatic, but normally with no real health issue.
ED 1 = light dyspaltic, but normally with no real health issue, depending on which illness who caused this result, as ED is a term used for many different illnesses(not only dysplacia like in HD) in the elbow.

Originally Posted by Admin

we remove all ILL dogs from the list.

Anyway if you think HD C = ED 1 and ED 1 is an ill dog, why do you allow dogs with HD C to stay on the stud dog list ?

Greetings Rolf

[admin]

Originally Posted by rolf

Explanation from the Danish expert who I mentioned earlier is quite different than your statement :
HD B = light dysplatic, but normally with no real health issue.
ED 1 = light dyspaltic, but normally with no real health issue

Please LEAVE this "expert"... Ask better google...

[Juniorwolf]

Originally Posted by Admin

Please LEAVE this "expert"... Ask better google...

Please tell me your scourse of your claimed sientific work ...and your name, if you are not afraid to stand by your opinions ?

Google is the expert of all experts

Greetings Rolf

[admin]

Originally Posted by rolf

Google is the expert of all experts

No ... but still better than person who helps you and make BASIC faults and have no idea about basic things...
I'm sorry but I have no time to explain you everything starting with "What is HD and ED and what are the scores".... Even if without it the whole talk is for nothing (because exactly the missing information is the reason why the are so many wholes in your argumentation)...

[Juniorwolf]

Originally Posted by Admin

No ... but still better than person who helps you and make BASIC faults and have no idea about basic things...
I'm sorry but I have no time to explain you everything starting with "What is HD and ED and what are the scores".... Even if without it the whole talk is for nothing (because exactly the missing information is the reason why the are so many wholes in your argumentation)...

I will stand by my opinions and public my scources of sientific work, you have`nt done any of that so far, so please show us some credibility of your statements and show your "face" or stop your useless accusations against my scources of sientific work.

I did not ask you to explain "what is HD and ED scores" I know what this already from an expert who is NAMED, that seems to be more than you are able to do.

Greetings Rolf

[michaelundinaeichhorn]

Originally Posted by rolf

I will stand by my opinions and public my scources of sientific work, you have`nt done any of that so far, so please show us some credibility of your statements and show your "face" or stop your useless accusations against my scources of sientific work.

I did not ask you to explain "what is HD and ED scores" I know what this already from an expert who is NAMED, that seems to be more than you are able to do.

Greetings Rolf

Here is a link of the veterinary association that works on genetic orthopedic deseases in dogs, luckily it is already in English. http://www.grsk.org/Fluckiger_Scorig.pdf
The definition of B in literature written of some of the inventors of the FCI-Systhem here in Germany is:
Normal hip within the genetic range
In Germany we have B1 and B2, the difference between A2 and B1 is extremly tight and not visible for non-experts.

Ina

[Nebulosa]

but normally with no real health issue, depending on which illness who caused this result, as ED is a term used for many different illnesses(not only dysplacia like in HD) in the elbow.

In the same way HD can be diagnosed with some different illnes, but what caused is was the bad formation in the joint, acetabulum or femoral head.
The Displasy is what cause those problems, that will be used as signal of the bad formation.
The word displasy means bad formation, so, resuming, its a bad formation that will make the elbow or the hips work wrong, causing some problems that you will find in the X rays.
There is the problem os the comparation between HD and ED, a HD dog can be displasic without have any kind of degeneration, if he will futurelly show it or not are other 500, but a ED dog will only get positive when its already have the degeneration.