Report about CSW

Per Olav · 29-09-2009, 20:30

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Originally Posted by Angelika

An absolutely fantastic report!! Bravo!!!

Thank you, Ina and Altai, for teaching us what a CSW is able to do.

And when will it be available on the net? I've already promised the readers of my blog and on Facebook a stunning experience

michaelundinaeichhorn · 29-09-2009, 23:32

Well, I am really sorry (especially because I haven´t seen the report now, being at work) but it is only on the net as a text:
http://www.swr.de/im-gruenen-rp/-/id...jp7/index.html
I will recieve a DVD but I don´t think I can put it into the net because of the copyright.
But I anyway planned to make a video the same way, film the way the "vicitim" takes and than the dog on the trail. Now we have a new camera I will do this soon.

The translation of the site:
The first two parts are about the history of the breed and about cinema movies our dogs were acting in.

We haven´t been interested in their abilities as acttors but in the ability of their noses. We wanted to know if they would be able to find our Moderator Ulrike Nehrbaß in Bad Dürkheim. Of course not walking, that would have been much too easy for wolfdogs.Ina Ziebler-Eichhorn has gone with her female Altai on the trail after a short sniff at Ulrike Nehrbaß scarf.

Hard to believe but Altai was even able to find her trail behind a car At a fuelstation the car passed she didn´t get irritated by the smell of the gasoline. Altai didn´t get of her trail. Shortly afterwards she took a shortcut over a big parkinglot. A wolfdog can get up to 40km per hours fast (I didn´t understand this, they rund faster but of course trail much slower ) The Team (camera and reporter

) started to get exhausted but Altai didn´t show any signs of getting tired. The smell out of a fast food restaurant did attrac her attention only shortly. Our Moderator Ulrike Nehrbaß was close to her destination and passed some big open areas direction of the center of the city. For the dog e new challenge. Big open spaces are difficult, the scentpartikels get spread over the place and are blown into open entrances. But then the first stage win: Altai has found the car. But where did the Moderator go?

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The dog was already for nearly an hour on her trail. Her correspondence with the way the Moderator took was very close to 100%. In between her owner made a mistake, didn´t trust her trail for a second. But Altai didn´t want a break but only one thing: to get to her destination.
Her til now most difficult trail was 25 days old, the succesfull search lasted nearly 5 hours (well that´s television I never said that, it took her 1h10 for 4,5 kms.) No wonder she could rely on her great nose this time and find our moderator U.N. The mantrail was succesfull.

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Who wants to own a CSW should take care which breeder and papers and have a lot of time. These animals are very intelligent and need a lot of work. This breed needs a more responsible owner than some others.

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Per Olav · 30-09-2009, 00:06

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Originally Posted by michaelundinaeichhorn

Well, I am really sorry (especially because I haven´t seen the report now, being at work) but it is only on the net as a text:
http://www.swr.de/im-gruenen-rp/-/id...jp7/index.html
I will recieve a DVD but I don´t think I can put it into the net because of the copyright.

Thanks for your link

In my country TV stations do stream programs like this on the net and the videos are available for viewing and downloading by everyone interrested. Pity it can't be done - I should very much like to present the video to our authoryties and everyone else doubting the working ability and social behaviour of our breed.

Nevertheless I'll be more than happy viewing the result of your movie.

Cheers
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Per Olav

michaelundinaeichhorn · 30-09-2009, 07:06

They do it here too but not with everything they produce and they never do it with "im Grünen" the program this took part in.
I will ask if I can copy the part out of the DVD but I don´t think I am allowed to.

Rona · 30-09-2009, 08:58

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...the succesfull search lasted nearly 5 hours (well that´s television I never said that, it took her 1h10 for 4,5 kms.)

Yes, that's the problem with our dogs when they track... especially when the "victim" has a stupid idea to put the trail accross a stream in a deep valley

Following the dog down and up, in the mud, at the speed of a tracking CSV may be really hazardous...

Ina, very interesting program. I wish I could watch it!

michaelundinaeichhorn · 30-09-2009, 09:17

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Originally Posted by Rona

Yes, that's the problem with our dogs when they track... especially when the "victim" has a stupid idea to put the trail accross a stream in a deep valley

Following the dog down and up, in the mud, at the speed of a tracking CSV may be really hazardous...

Ina, very interesting program. I wish I could watch it!

You (meant no special person, just in general) need to learn to act as a team then, that problem exists mainly in the beginning. Your dog needs your part in the team to show him the possibility that the trail will cross the stream and you need to learn to read the dog to see that the trail must continue on the other side.

The 25 days old trail was downtown in a very big city with crossroads with 2-3 lanes in one direction, a dog can´t do this without your help and will learn to follow your directions, like waiting at trafficlights and wait to cross the street until you allow to continue.

By the way there is a great difference between tracking and trailing, in tracking you follow footsteps and the damage they do to the ground, in trailing you follow the microscopic partikels we all loose in the thousands every minute and that are blown over the ground following thermic sensations what is the reason that a trailer will be much faster but mostly not exactly on the track of the person he follows.

Rona · 30-09-2009, 10:03

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Originally Posted by michaelundinaeichhorn

You (meant no special person, just in general) need to learn to act as a team then, that problem exists mainly in the beginning. Your dog needs your part in the team to show him the possibility that the trail will cross the stream and you need to learn to read the dog to see that the trail must continue on the other side.

Lorka is very young, just begins working with her nose.... Finding a 2 hr trail on the other side of the stream was not a bit of a problem for her, but the pace at which she did it was a problem for me

We have to work on synchronizing our "fitness".

Anyway, thanks for the comments. We still need to learn a lot, but it's fun!

29-09-2009, 23:32	#2
michaelundinaeichhorn Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Bad Dürkheim Posts: 2,249	Well, I am really sorry (especially because I haven´t seen the report now, being at work) but it is only on the net as a text: http://www.swr.de/im-gruenen-rp/-/id...jp7/index.html I will recieve a DVD but I don´t think I can put it into the net because of the copyright. But I anyway planned to make a video the same way, film the way the "vicitim" takes and than the dog on the trail. Now we have a new camera I will do this soon. The translation of the site: The first two parts are about the history of the breed and about cinema movies our dogs were acting in. We haven´t been interested in their abilities as acttors but in the ability of their noses. We wanted to know if they would be able to find our Moderator Ulrike Nehrbaß in Bad Dürkheim. Of course not walking, that would have been much too easy for wolfdogs.Ina Ziebler-Eichhorn has gone with her female Altai on the trail after a short sniff at Ulrike Nehrbaß scarf. Hard to believe but Altai was even able to find her trail behind a car At a fuelstation the car passed she didn´t get irritated by the smell of the gasoline. Altai didn´t get of her trail. Shortly afterwards she took a shortcut over a big parkinglot. A wolfdog can get up to 40km per hours fast (I didn´t understand this, they rund faster but of course trail much slower ) The Team (camera and reporter) started to get exhausted but Altai didn´t show any signs of getting tired. The smell out of a fast food restaurant did attrac her attention only shortly. Our Moderator Ulrike Nehrbaß was close to her destination and passed some big open areas direction of the center of the city. For the dog e new challenge. Big open spaces are difficult, the scentpartikels get spread over the place and are blown into open entrances. But then the first stage win: Altai has found the car. But where did the Moderator go? Bild vergrößern The dog was already for nearly an hour on her trail. Her correspondence with the way the Moderator took was very close to 100%. In between her owner made a mistake, didn´t trust her trail for a second. But Altai didn´t want a break but only one thing: to get to her destination. Her til now most difficult trail was 25 days old, the succesfull search lasted nearly 5 hours (well that´s television I never said that, it took her 1h10 for 4,5 kms.) No wonder she could rely on her great nose this time and find our moderator U.N. The mantrail was succesfull. Bild vergrößern Who wants to own a CSW should take care which breeder and papers and have a lot of time. These animals are very intelligent and need a lot of work. This breed needs a more responsible owner than some others. Mehr im WWW: www.twhclub.de www.wolfdog.org ?

30-09-2009, 07:06	#4
michaelundinaeichhorn Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Bad Dürkheim Posts: 2,249	They do it here too but not with everything they produce and they never do it with "im Grünen" the program this took part in. I will ask if I can copy the part out of the DVD but I don´t think I am allowed to.