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[Juniorwolf]

Originally Posted by Nebulosa

I dont arrived at any conclusion, but some people think that its personal against their dog, their breeding or himself when in truth I'm pretty sure its nothing more than tecnical problems with overwork.

I am aware of such people who think everything is an offence/attack/violation on them(friends or "family"), but in fact I think, that it is kind of me, to help the admins pointing out what ever faults might be in the database, so they can correct it.
....but apparently some people either don`t appreciate this or are to narrow minded to see that the world is`nt as evil as they might think ?

[wilczakrew]

Rolf world is bad. Especially if you like no other sentence. Conspiracy Theory is a very popular tool. On the Polish forum appears to be still. Especially as someone has a different opinion. The attacks also come always from the same page.
Family always has to stick together. Are you against one, you have the whole family on his head.
It reminds me that on our atmosphere.
Well, the rest is relative.

[Juniorwolf]

Originally Posted by wilczakrew

Rolf world is bad. Especially if you like no other sentence. Conspiracy Theory is a very popular tool. On the Polish forum appears to be still. Especially as someone has a different opinion. The attacks also come always from the same page.
Family always has to stick together. Are you against one, you have the whole family on his head.
It reminds me that on our atmosphere.
Well, the rest is relative.

wilczakrew, I`m sorry, but I really like Danish(maybe some are international) sayings...
"Everything are only what you make of it" ....I choose to think that the world is not so bad, but ofcourse there is a few rotten apples here and there.
Anyway thanks for pointing out that the bad behaviour of some people is not only on the English forum, but a general behaviour for some people.

[wilczakrew]

Rolf in Denmark you have a completely different mentality.
Poles are far behind.

The world is beautiful if you want to see the beauty.
Our dogs have a life too short to waste it on such discussions as it was presented by Rona.
On the conspiracy theories, rotten apples, etc.

[Margo]

Originally Posted by wilczakrew

Rolf in Denmark you have a completely different mentality.
Poles are far behind.

Yes! We plough fields with horses. We keep wolfdogs in pigsties. We have electricity only in our capital. And in the winter we go dressed in furs...

Any maybe in 100 years we discover something more than lex talionis....

[Margo]

Originally Posted by wilczakrew

On the Polish forum appears to be still. Especially as someone has a different opinion. The attacks also come always from the same page.

At last there is someone who will uncover all kind of cheating... even if some people makes it angry...

(Dear forums members - I owe you an explanation: the reason for this post in the case of polish pseudo-bonitation in Osieczna: a privat bonitation done by people who were too affraid(?) to present their dogs on a official bonitation (of course not all - there were also "normal" CzW owners who had NO IDEA that it is not a normal official Czech bonitation done according the valid regulations).
They organizator invited a judge from Czech Republic, but there was no bonitation committee, bonitation cards (codes) are hidden, the written codes are wrong (their are either Czech nor Slovakian) and most dogs were evaluated much better as they are in the reality (many serious faults were hidden). The results of this pseudo-bonitation has been put INTO THE PEDIGREES!
Now some breeders are already cheating the puppy buyers saying their dogs PASSED THE MOST IMPORTANT TEST FOR WOLFDOGS - BONITATION (WITH THE EXCELLENT NOTE). Passed something what can not be described as REAL bonitation...

Any critics about this pseudo-bonitation are called "attack on people who have different opinion".....

Hmmm....maybe it is right... Anybody who knows the regulations and the way of judging bonitations will have DIFFERENT OPINION than the organizers of the bonitation in Osieczna. And every CzW owner who cares for honesty will be against it...

Originally Posted by wilczakrew

Family always has to stick together. Are you against one, you have the whole family on his head.

I would describe it on a different way: "similar personalities keep together". People who have the same values, style and simply said "understand each other"... You keep with btd, rolf, aso.... I would be happy if you will put me in one bag with Rona, Nebulosa, Grins or wolfin... Because I agree with the - not because I MUST but because I think the same...

[Juniorwolf]

Originally Posted by Margo

You keep with btd, rolf, aso....

Margo, your constant paranoia and illusive imagination is getting pretty borring !!!
...I DON`T know btd or wilczakrew and they DON`t know me, so please don`t compare us with your friends/"family".

[wilczakrew]

Originally Posted by Margo

At last there is someone who will uncover all kind of cheating... even if some people makes it angry...

(Dear forums members - I owe you an explanation: the reason for this post in the case of polish pseudo-bonitation in Osieczna: a privat bonitation done by people who were too affraid(?) to present their dogs on a official bonitation (of course not all - there were also "normal" CzW owners who had NO IDEA that it is not a normal official Czech bonitation done according the valid regulations).
They organizator invited a judge from Czech Republic, but there was no bonitation committee, bonitation cards (codes) are hidden, the written codes are wrong (their are either Czech nor Slovakian) and most dogs were evaluated much better as they are in the reality (many serious faults were hidden). The results of this pseudo-bonitation has been put INTO THE PEDIGREES!
Now some breeders are already cheating the puppy buyers saying their dogs PASSED THE MOST IMPORTANT TEST FOR WOLFDOGS - BONITATION (WITH THE EXCELLENT NOTE). Passed something what can not be described as REAL bonitation...

Any critics about this pseudo-bonitation are called "attack on people who have different opinion".....

Hmmm....maybe it is right... Anybody who knows the regulations and the way of judging bonitations will have DIFFERENT OPINION than the organizers of the bonitation in Osieczna. And every CzW owner who cares for honesty will be against it...




I would describe it on a different way: "similar personalities keep together". People who have the same values, style and simply said "understand each other"... You keep with btd, rolf, aso.... I would be happy if you will put me in one bag with Rona, Nebulosa or Grins... Because I agree with the - not because I MUST but because I think the same...

Margo is already beginning to be distasteful.
Were not you the Bonitation. Did you see the original papers bonitacyjnych. You have no idea what you're saying.
In this way, do not get anything.

I wonder one thing. Why are they here the same person. Why are they Polish or related to it.
Why suffer the same words.

For me it's not impressed.

[Margo]

Originally Posted by rolf

I am aware of such people who think everything is an offence/attack/violation on them(friends or "family"), but in fact I think, that it is kind of me, to help the admins pointing out what ever faults might be in the database, so they can correct it.
....but apparently some people either don`t appreciate this or are to narrow minded to see that the world is`nt as evil as they might think ?

I think it is not about WHAT you are doing but HOW you are doing it... Don't you think there must be something wrong with your way of speaking with Admin? I know that there are more than hundred people sending corrections and information to the administration email. And I think it didn't changed since I was the administrator. And the only "black sheep" is you... Nobody complains about Admin, nobody attack him. Hundred people have no problem with Admin, and admin have no problem with 100 people...
Think about it. Expecially that you must do a lot wrong things to be black listed by Rona - Rona who is our forum negotiator and (almost) never get angry...

[Juniorwolf]

Originally Posted by Margo

I think it is not about WHAT you are doing but HOW you are doing it... Don't you think there must be something wrong with your way of speaking with Admin?

Where in my post do you see ANYTHING adressed to Admin ?
....and if you do somehow see my post as adressed to Admin, why are Admin the only one who don`t answer, only friends/"family" is feeling an urge to defend ehh.... something ???

Originally Posted by Margo

I know that there are more than hundred people sending corrections and information to the administration email. And I think it didn't changed since I was the administrator. And the only "black sheep" is you... Nobody complains about Admin, nobody attack him. Hundred people have no problem with Admin, and admin have no problem with 100 people...

So the conclusion of this is : if you do not complain about Admin, Admin will have no problem with you, but if you do, you will have a problem with Admin(and friends/"family").

Where am I writing any complains ? and what makes you think of this as an attack ? ...I would`nt brag about Admin ONLY have no problem with 100 people, when there are more than 2500 registered members on wd.org(according to Rona).

Originally Posted by Margo

Think about it. Expecially that you must do a lot wrong things to be black listed by Rona - Rona who is our forum negotiator and (almost) never get angry...

It is nice to see that your "family" can watch eachothers back, because you probertly would`nt stand a chance by your selves.
I really don`t give a shit about Rona or if anybody else from your "family" will blacklist me, it only say a lot about your abilities to interact/communicate with other people ...and it is not positiv, in case you did`nt realize it !

But thanks for giving me another laugh, by exposing your self as one more "familymember" who is easily feeling offended/attacked/violated for nothing ?

[Margo]

Originally Posted by rolf

It is nice to see that your "family" can watch eachothers back, because you probertly would`nt stand a chance by your selves.
I really don`t give a shit about Rona or if anybody else from your "family" will blacklist me, it only say a lot about your abilities to interact/communicate with other people ...and it is not positiv, in case you did`nt realize it !

Rolf, I hope only that you do not understand WHAT your are writing and what STYLE your posts have...
If you know... than I must agree with Admin and Rona....

I preffer more civilized way of disscusion. So *PLONK* also from me...

[Juniorwolf]

Originally Posted by Margo

Rolf, I hope only that you do not understand WHAT your are writing and what STYLE your posts have...
If you know... than I must agree with Admin and Rona....

I preffer more civilized way of disscusion. So *PLONK* also from me...

I`m sorry but I just have to use this saying again :
"one should sweep in front of your own door, before sweeping infront of others" .....this is really getting borring !

[Angelika]

Originally Posted by Margo

Rolf, I hope only that you do not understand WHAT your are writing and what STYLE your posts have...
If you know... than I must agree with Admin and Rona....

I preffer more civilized way of disscusion. So *PLONK* also from me...

I think Rolf knows exactly what he´s writing. So *PLONK* from me too ...

[Juniorwolf]

Originally Posted by Angelika

I think Rolf knows exactly what he´s writing. So *PLONK* from me too ...

Just a few jokes from the "comedy-family"

Angelika - did`nt even join the disscusion, but feeling so offenced/attacked/violated on behalf on her friends/"family" that she also prefer a more civilized way of disscusion and see no other option than to ignore me ....that pretty much leaves out any way of disscusion(civilized or not)

Margo - when friends/"family" speak about CONSPIRACY THEORY it is okey, when Margo her self speak shit about a whole club or telling lies, it is okey, but if anybody else are doing this, she preffer a more civilized way of disscusion ....very civilized

Rona - ask me : "why do you write here if you don't want your way of reasoning be assessed and confronted with other people's opinions?" and in same post "Now you've offended me and I put you on my "ignore" list"

How can anybody take these persons seriously ???

....at least by this action, they seems to follow the saying "if you have nothing reasonable/sensible to say it is better to say nothing at all"

[michaelundinaeichhorn]

Well Rolf,

I also, like Angelika, don´t belong to this "family" but feel pretty fed up with the way you write. Till now the English forum was the one where it was possible to discuss and communicate in a normal way, maybe you should change to the German one, you will feel very much at home there?

If almost everybody doesn´t agree with you it could be possible that you simply are the one who is wrong. Just to mention an idea that may be worth to think about.

And by the way I wrote to the Admin twice and got two answers but it took some time. I don´t fully agree with the second one but till now it seems to me that it will be possible to discuss it in a normal manner and find an agreement.
If not I can think about going to somewhere else (like I almost don´t use the German Forum anymore because of the two moderators) because I know that this is a private site what means that how it is been managed belongs to the owners alone. You can complain but you can´t always expect them to follow. If you can´t live with that fact you should think about building up something of your own where you can rule as you like. To keep on complaining (about not really important things by the way) for days and insulting everybody who doesn´t share your point of view seems to be a bit strange for an adult person to me.

Ina