handling of health problems

[loco]

Rookie or Big Expert ???????, it is still to mine own person to judge what is right or wrong .
And that is the same with everything, that make's us the persons that we are .
And if I ever listend to the people who are "the Big and Famous Expert", sorry then I never owned a CSW .
And surtern not from Warsaw.
And i'm very glad that i did not listend to the big and famous expert , because i am very happy with mine doggie .
A Eternal Rookie .

[z Peronówki]

Originally Posted by loco

Rookie or Big Expert ???????, it is still to mine own person to judge what is right or wrong .
And that is the same with everything, that make's us the persons that we are .
And if I ever listend to the people who are "the Big and Famous Expert", sorry then I never owned a CSW .
And surtern not from Warsaw.
And i'm very glad that i did not listend to the big and famous expert , because i am very happy with mine doggie .
A Eternal Rookie .

I agree. If we would believe to all this what so called "experts" are saying we would believe in MANY lies...

I heard SO MANY lies about different dogs and different breeders which turned out to be just lies and gossips that I preffer to make my own opinion basing on facts and not what one of two people are saying....

I think what really counts is just the common sence. And instead of spreading the "only truth" is it better to publish FACTS so everybody can judge what is the true and what not...

[Hanka]

Margo, if you know some litters with dwarf puppy in Czech rep. in last two years, why you did not contact me or Mijke? You know, we collect these info. We are not "open forum". If you know it on 100%, please write to us. I can contact beeder and I can ask him about more. You know, we try to compile "net" where genes go and every info has "value of gold" for us.....You know.
I don´t care about some stupid speaking of some people which know only attack other breeders. I have my own brain and I belive the dates what collect myself. Some cryptorchid in kennel- Hm, it can be, we have dogs, not machines. But I will not start to know it is bad kennel.....

For me is "closed" forum of "experts" not good idea. Who will tell: this or this person is "expert"? I think is bad situation if in countries don´t work breedcomission with these infos.

Short OT info: hi hi, now I know person which has first wolfdogs and now is this person BIG expert about wolfdogs (health, blood lines, in last days especially albinismus).For me is very funny when "somebody" write me email like "Thuomas from Finland" and this person writes me he is interest about puppy and he wants know info about my light silver pups what we have now......

I don´t want to be with these people in some "group of experts", thanks....
but we have demokracion. If people will want this forrum...............

[mijke]

Originally Posted by Nebulosa

Only for one small add here, i'm searching for informations about eyes diseases in the breed and ED, so who knows something about it and wants share informations i'm open.

The of Maisons-Alfort did start last year together with CNRS in Rennes a research for eye diseases of CSW. The research is led by Dr. G Payen and Dr. S. Chahory.
They did test CsW's of French, Chech, Slovakian and Hunagrian lines.
And they did find for example: PRA, PRA related disease, cataract, retina dysplasie.
I'll try to get the whole official report of this research and will inform you later.

And HERE you can find some more eye test results

Originally Posted by Nebulosa

... but for newbies its pretty different, have people who arrives here without have the minimal idea about HD, ED, myelopathy, dwarf and others problems

There is no need to make newbies afraid with all kind of health story's they don't understand (or can't see in the right perspective)
That is why I did ask for also a breed/stud dog forum (for every registered breeder and stud dog owner, they don't need to be experts!)

There we can first discuss about a lot of health problems and later on make objective explanations on normal forum.
And I hope in breeder forum breeders will also speak more open together

For example only a few writers here now know there is also a new dwarf born in ....
But nobody wants to speak about this (even I don't want to!) because we don't want to harm the breeder.
Because newbies can possible think that it is not a good combination!
But for me it is a pity that we can't share these kind of info and photo's, because we all could learn of this.

[loco]

Originally Posted by z Peronówki

I agree. If we would believe to all this what so called "experts" are saying we would believe in MANY lies...
..

hiih Sorry, but I really mean "big expert" .
And i will be the last to say, that they are telling lies .
Groette Martine.