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Old 11-01-2010, 18:18   #1
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Chaos Zlata palz always had problems with her heat, she got in heat and stopped before ovulation, they tried to give her much contact to males but even this didn´t help. They went to an endocrinology specialist and they found out she was showing hyperthyreodistic levels in her bloodcheck. Hyperthyreosis normally doesn´t exist in dogs and she was perfectly healthy, out of experience the specialist checked her diet and found out that her owners were feeding the throat part of cattles as a treat regulary. This part contains the thyreoid gland of the cattle, fed regulary it pushes the dog into an artificial Hyperthyreosis. After they changed the diet she got into regular heat, was mated without problems and got a healthy litter.

Also very often a reason for prolonged heat with no or still ovulation: not contact to males or a dominant female close by. We have to separate Amy from her mother or she stops her heat at once. Her mother isn´t dominating her at all, she is just higher in rank.

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This part contains the thyreoid gland of the cattle, fed regulary it pushes the dog into an artificial Hyperthyreosis. After they changed the diet she got into regular heat, was mated without problems and got a healthy litter.
Aaa... maybe there's any information about some other parts of cattle that also can put a dog in same conition? Brukne is fed raw meat, sea fish and sour milk products, maybe there ight be something wrong in her diet? Maybe giving the necks of turkeys or chicken may cause the same problem?

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Also very often a reason for prolonged heat with no or still ovulation: not contact to males or a dominant female close by. We have to separate Amy from her mother or she stops her heat at once. Her mother isn´t dominating her at all, she is just higher in rank.

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Could a human be considered a "dominant female"?... One of our vets nearly called me an idiot after this kind of question, but still
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Aaa... maybe there's any information about some other parts of cattle that also can put a dog in same conition? Brukne is fed raw meat, sea fish and sour milk products, maybe there ight be something wrong in her diet?
very often you get those parts mixed into the raw dog food you can buy already mashed, after I learned about this problem I look very carefully which part of animal is used for the mixture.

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Could a human be considered a "dominant female"?... One of our vets nearly called me an idiot after this kind of question, but still
As dogs build up some very special kind of family-relations with humans I wouldn´t deny this in general. Even our female-wolf, who as a wolf doesn´t build up the same kind of bonding, is very submissiv against me now she comes in breading season, but she gets in heat. The breading season is the most dangerous time for humans with handraised wolves, so I think it is even much more likely for dogs that the human relationsship can have an influence on very few dogs.

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You can see the thyreoid glands and I never saw them on turkey or chicken necks.
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You can see the thyreoid glands and I never saw them on turkey or chicken necks.
But parrots do have thyreoid glands in their necks, so are turkeys and chickens that much diferent?
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They have thyreoid glands but normally they sit deeper than in mammals - as far as I can remember, it´s very long time ago. But you see the gland it is sitting on the structures when the skin is gone. Chicken shouldn´t be such a problem cause it is not very big but if you feed several times a week the gland of a cattle it is like giving it as a drug.
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But when you feed turkey and chicken necks it is usually only the spine, not the trachea, esophagus etc.
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But many people feed cattle throats which are still with Trachea and Oesophagus and on the Trachea sits the Thyreoidea
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Her mother isn´t dominating her at all, she is just higher in rank.
Is it possible that if a female lives in a pack of humans, she might recognize her owners to be the Alpha couple and this could impede her ovulation?

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