About "stud list" on wolfdog.org

Mikael · 22-01-2010, 18:54

Yes 72-0 this far

Equal rights and justice on the stud list please / Mikael

z Peronówki · 22-01-2010, 22:03

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Originally Posted by Mikael

Yes 72-0 this far

73-0 now.

I'm for explaining the problems and not for hiding them!

michaelundinaeichhorn · 22-01-2010, 22:14

74, I don´t see any sense in not showing bad results in studdogs, I want to know as much as possible about studs and their offspring.

Ina

mijke · 22-01-2010, 22:29

75-1 You did forget my first post

Nebulosa · 22-01-2010, 22:56

76

Maybe we should actualize the list?

massimo · 22-01-2010, 23:31

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Originally Posted by z Peronówki

73-0 now.

I'm for explaining the problems and not for hiding them!

???
ehm...
Margo? you are Margo joining a list which is against some rules of the woldog.org site....owned by ....Margo?

I'm confused!!

I wrote long time ago I was against putting IN the list dogs without ED test and putting OUT of the list dogs with ED 1 test, it is absurd and useless;as if you punish who makes the test and prize who doesn't.

But...who made the rules of the studlist that we are petitioning against?
it has been there for a long time...

massimo · 23-01-2010, 14:42

Paula moved away the part about "Admin" and I agree on creation of new thread but...this part was moved away, I think it was coherent to the thread:

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Coming back to the main argument, I wrote already 4 months ago,addressing to ADMIN:
"If a dog with declared but not proven ED 0 goes on the stud list and a dog with proven ED0/1 doesn't.... it's automatic that you are PUSHING people NOT to declare bad elbows... as many other may be in the stud list."
and now it seems many many others are joining the same point of view.

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The discussion about studlist is open since september, nothing has changed.
Now more than 75 people, users of WD.org, show their disagreement on a rule of WD.org and we really are not sure if we are being heard by the right person.
Will ADMIN listen to our "plead" (which now is stronger than 4 months ago...)?

jmvdwiel · 23-01-2010, 15:39

I'm against of moving the dogs wih ED problems of the list, in Holland as Mijke already mentioned ED is not nescessary yet for breeding.

That is the reason why I didn't do the test yet, If my dog would be selected as a stud dog (which I now think he is to young for), than I can still make the x-ray if the female is x-rayed.

For now I don't have any problems, so for his health I don't have to make the pictures, and of course I know you cannot believe somebody on his/her words.
So why not just put the results in the list, so that every breeder can select the right male/female for his/her dog, I don't think the average wolfdog visitor is THAT stupid that he cannot make a choice for himself.

So I am AGAINST of removing the dogs without he ED results.

Nebulosa · 23-01-2010, 18:47

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Originally Posted by massimo

Paula moved away the part about "Admin"

Some kind of sleepwalking.

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Originally Posted by jmvdwiel

So I am AGAINST of removing the dogs without he ED results.

I think people need a time to get adaptated, also I dont believe some people will make the dogs pass again for the anesthesie only for make ED results.
Would be more fair if start to require the ED results for the new stud dogs, dogs born from half of 2008 ahead.

jmvdwiel · 23-01-2010, 19:19

I don't think you need anaesthesia for the elbows (with a normal dog

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22-01-2010, 18:54	#1
Mikael Scandinavian Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Stockholm Posts: 1,089	Yes 72-0 this far Equal rights and justice on the stud list please / Mikael __________________ _________________________________________________ Hronec, Rasty, Zilja Kennel, Wolfdog of Sweden* http://kennelwolfdogofsweden.vpsite.se/Home.html http://www.facebook.com/pages/Wolfdo...53067971392916

22-01-2010, 22:29	#4
mijke Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Warnsveld Posts: 2,033	75-1 You did forget my first post __________________ Vriendelijke groeten, Mijke PS: I am not a moderator anymore!!

22-01-2010, 22:56	#5
Nebulosa Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Rio Grande do Sul Posts: 1,334	76 Maybe we should actualize the list? __________________

23-01-2010, 15:39	#8
jmvdwiel Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,061	I'm against of moving the dogs wih ED problems of the list, in Holland as Mijke already mentioned ED is not nescessary yet for breeding. That is the reason why I didn't do the test yet, If my dog would be selected as a stud dog (which I now think he is to young for), than I can still make the x-ray if the female is x-rayed. For now I don't have any problems, so for his health I don't have to make the pictures, and of course I know you cannot believe somebody on his/her words. So why not just put the results in the list, so that every breeder can select the right male/female for his/her dog, I don't think the average wolfdog visitor is THAT stupid that he cannot make a choice for himself. So I am AGAINST of removing the dogs without he ED results. Last edited by jmvdwiel; 23-01-2010 at 19:18.

22-01-2010, 22:14	#3
michaelundinaeichhorn Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Bad Dürkheim Posts: 2,249	74, I don´t see any sense in not showing bad results in studdogs, I want to know as much as possible about studs and their offspring. Ina

23-01-2010, 19:19	#10
jmvdwiel Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,061	I don't think you need anaesthesia for the elbows (with a normal dog )