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I guess Admin is already overloaded
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"Character transmission" ; should probably be arranged in categories...
Number of occurrence : Father + Mother => Offspring 107 : Of + Of => Of 54 : Of + Of => Oh 46 : Of + Og => Of 42 : Of + Og => Og 41 : Of + Oh => Oh 40 : Og + Of => Of 34 : Of + Oh => Of 32 : Oh + Of => Of 32 : Of + Of => Og 31 : Og + Og => Of 29 : Of + Oh => Og 25 : Og + Oh => Of 25 : Of + Og => Oh 23 : Oh + Oh => Og 22 : Oh + Oh => Of 22 : Og + Og => Og 21 : Of + Od => Oh 21 : Of + Od => Of 20 : Og + Oc => Og 18 : Oh + Oh => Oh 18 : Of + Oc => Of 18 : Od + Of => Of 17 : Of + Of => Od 16 : Oh + Of => Oh 16 : Og + Of => Og 15 : Oh + Og => Of 15 : Og + Of => Oh 14 : Of + Og => Od 14 : Of + Of => Ob 14 : Of + Oc => Og 13 : Of + Og => Oc 13 : Of + Ob => Oh 12 : Oh + Oh => Od 12 : Of + Od => Og 12 : Of + Ob => Of 11 : Oh + Og => Og 11 : Og + Oh => Oh 11 : Og + Of => Od 11 : Og + Oc => Of 11 : Of + Og => Ob 11 : Of + Of => Oc 10 : Oh + Oc => Oh 10 : Og + Oh => Og 10 : Og + Og => Oh 10 : Of + Oh => Oc 9 : Og + Od => Of 9 : Og + Oc => Od 9 : Of + Oc => Oh 9 : Of + Ob => Ob 8 : Oh + Of => Od 8 : Og + Og => Od 8 : Og + Og => Oc 8 : Of + Oh => Od 8 : Of + Od => Od 8 : Of + Oc => Od 8 : Of + Ob => Og 8 : Of + Ob => Oc 7 : Oh + Of => Og 7 : Oh + Of => Oc 7 : Og + Oh => Od 7 : Og + Oc => Oh 7 : Og + Oc => Oc 7 : Og + Oc => Ob 7 : Of + Oh => Oi 7 : Of + Oh => Ob 7 : Of + Oa => Of 6 : Oh + Oh => Ob 6 : Og + Of => Ob 6 : Of + Oi => Of 6 : Of + Od => Oc 6 : Of + Ob => Od 6 : Od + Of => Og 6 : Oc + Of => Oh 5 : Oh + Oh => Oi 5 : Oh + Og => Oh 5 : Oh + Od => Of 5 : Oh + Oc => Og 5 : Og + Oi => Og 5 : Og + Oh => Oi 5 : Og + Oh => Ob 5 : Og + Od => Og 5 : Of + Of => Oi 5 : Of + Od => Ob 5 : Of + Oc => Oc 5 : Oc + Oh => Of 5 : Ob + Oh => Oh 5 : Ob + Ob => Og 4 : Oh + Oi => Og 4 : Oh + Og => Oc 4 : Oh + Od => Od 4 : Og + Oh => Oc 4 : Og + Od => Od 4 : Og + Ob => Og 4 : Of + Oi => Oi 4 : Of + Oi => Oh 4 : Of + Oc => Oi 4 : Of + Oc => Ob 4 : Of + Oa => Oh 4 : Oe + Of => Of 4 : Od + Ob => Of 4 : Ob + Oi => Og 4 : Ob + Oh => Ob 4 : Ob + Og => Oh 4 : Ob + Og => Og 3 : Oh + Oi => Oh 3 : Oh + Oi => Of 3 : Oh + Oh => Oc 3 : Oh + Of => Oi 3 : Oh + Od => Oh 3 : Oh + Od => Og 3 : Oh + Od => Oc 3 : Oh + Oc => Oi 3 : Oh + Oc => Of 3 : Oh + Oc => Od 3 : Oh + Oc => Ob 3 : Oh + Oa => Oh 3 : Oh + Oa => Og 3 : Oh + Oa => Ob 3 : Of + Oh => Oa 3 : Of + Og => Oi 3 : Of + Og => Oe 3 : Of + Of => Oe 3 : Of + Oe => Og 3 : Of + Oe => Of 3 : Of + Ob => Oi 3 : Oe + Oh => Oh 3 : Oe + Oh => Of 3 : Od + Of => Od 3 : Oc + Oh => Og 3 : Oc + Oh => Oc 3 : Oc + Of => Og 3 : Ob + Od => Og 3 : Ob + Ob => Of 3 : Ob + Oa => Oh 2 : Oi + Oi => Oh 2 : Oi + Oi => Og 2 : Oi + Oi => Od 2 : Oi + Oh => Og 2 : Oi + Oh => Oa 2 : Oi + Og => Oh 2 : Oi + Of => Oh 2 : Oi + Of => Og 2 : Oi + Of => Of 2 : Oh + Og => Od 2 : Oh + Og => Ob 2 : Oh + Of => Ob 2 : Oh + Oc => Oc 2 : Oh + Ob => Oh 2 : Oh + Ob => Of 2 : Oh + Oa => Of 2 : Og + Oh => Oe 2 : Og + Og => Ob 2 : Og + Of => Oc 2 : Og + Od => Oh 2 : Og + Od => Oc 2 : Og + Ob => Oh 2 : Og + Ob => Of 2 : Of + Oi => Od 2 : Of + Oi => Oc 2 : Of + Oe => Oh 2 : Of + Od => Oa 2 : Of + Oa => Og 2 : Of + Oa => Oc 2 : Oe + Og => Oe 2 : Oe + Og => Ob 2 : Oe + Of => Od 2 : Oe + Ob => Od 2 : Oe + Ob => Ob 2 : Od + Oh => Og 2 : Od + Of => Oh 2 : Od + Od => Og 2 : Od + Od => Of 2 : Od + Od => Oc 2 : Od + Oc => Og 2 : Oc + Oh => Oh 2 : Oc + Of => Of 2 : Oc + Oc => Og 2 : Oc + Ob => Og 2 : Ob + Oh => Og 2 : Ob + Oh => Of 2 : Ob + Of => Ob 2 : Ob + Od => Od 2 : Ob + Ob => Ob 1 : Oi + Oi => Of 1 : Oi + Oi => Oc 1 : Oi + Oi => Ob 1 : Oi + Oh => Oi 1 : Oi + Oh => Of 1 : Oi + Oh => Od 1 : Oi + Oh => Ob 1 : Oi + Og => Oi 1 : Oi + Og => Oc 1 : Oi + Og => Ob 1 : Oi + Od => Og 1 : Oi + Oc => Oi 1 : Oi + Oc => Og 1 : Oi + Oc => Oc 1 : Oi + Oc => Ob 1 : Oi + Ob => Ob 1 : Oh + Oi => Oi 1 : Oh + Oi => Oa 1 : Oh + Oh => Oe 1 : Oh + Og => Oi 1 : Oh + Of => Oa 1 : Oh + Oe => Oh 1 : Oh + Oe => Og 1 : Oh + Od => Oi 1 : Oh + Ob => Og 1 : Oh + Oa => Oa 1 : Og + Oi => Oh 1 : Og + Oi => Of 1 : Og + Oi => Ob 1 : Og + Og => Oi 1 : Og + Og => Oe 1 : Og + Og => Oa 1 : Og + Of => Oi 1 : Og + Of => Oa 1 : Og + Od => Ob 1 : Og + Oc => Oi 1 : Og + Ob => Od 1 : Og + Ob => Ob 1 : Og + Oa => Oh 1 : Og + Oa => Og 1 : Of + Oi => Og 1 : Of + Oi => Oe 1 : Of + Oi => Oa 1 : Of + Oh => Oe 1 : Of + Og => Oa 1 : Of + Of => Oa 1 : Of + Oe => Oc 1 : Of + Od => Oi 1 : Of + Oc => Oa 1 : Of + Ob => Oe 1 : Of + Oa => Ob 1 : Of + Oa => Oa 1 : Oe + Oh => Og 1 : Oe + Oh => Oc 1 : Oe + Og => Og 1 : Oe + Og => Od 1 : Oe + Og => Oc 1 : Oe + Of => Oh 1 : Oe + Of => Oe 1 : Oe + Of => Oc 1 : Oe + Of => Ob 1 : Od + Oh => Of 1 : Od + Og => Oh 1 : Od + Og => Of 1 : Od + Of => Oi 1 : Od + Of => Oc 1 : Od + Of => Ob 1 : Od + Od => Oh 1 : Od + Od => Oe 1 : Od + Od => Od 1 : Od + Od => O? 1 : Od + Oc => Od 1 : Od + Oc => Oc 1 : Od + Ob => Oh 1 : Od + Ob => Od 1 : Od + Ob => Ob 1 : Oc + Oh => Ob 1 : Oc + Og => Of 1 : Oc + Og => Oc 1 : Oc + Og => Ob 1 : Oc + Og => Oa 1 : Oc + Of => Oi 1 : Oc + Of => Oc 1 : Oc + Od => Og 1 : Oc + Oc => Od 1 : Oc + Oc => Oc 1 : Oc + Ob => Oh 1 : Oc + Ob => Of 1 : Oc + Ob => Od 1 : Oc + Ob => Oc 1 : Oc + Ob => Ob 1 : Oc + Oa => Oh 1 : Oc + Oa => Og 1 : Oc + Oa => Od 1 : Ob + Oi => Of 1 : Ob + Oi => Ob 1 : Ob + Oi => Oa 1 : Ob + Oh => Od 1 : Ob + Oh => Oa 1 : Ob + Og => Of 1 : Ob + Og => Ob 1 : Ob + Of => Oh 1 : Ob + Of => Og 1 : Ob + Od => Oi 1 : Ob + Od => Of 1 : Ob + Oc => Ob 1 : Ob + Ob => Oi 1 : Ob + Ob => Oh 1 : Ob + Ob => Oa 1 : Ob + Oa => Og 1 : Ob + Oa => Of 1 : Ob + Oa => Oc 1 : Oa + Oc => Og
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This is a little bit difficult for me as a behaviourist. I can remember occasions when I wouldn´t agree with the charactertest-result. We have seen one czech bonitation where dogs that showed severe fear aggression in messurement got OF because they attacked in the learned situation of defense. All in all the charaktertest has a very high "training factor."
I don´t want to discuss this all over again but this is a point where your statistic programm will have a very high amount of mistakes compared to reality. Ina |
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This is only raw data (with all it implies), I let humans make the interpretation
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Height evolution:
Here are the slice I choose, I choose those ones because they are about equivalent in number of dogs (300-450). [The whole statistical ensemble is the 2200-2300 bonitated dogs entered in WD.] Slices: 1970->1990 ; 1990->1995 ; 1995->2000 ; 2000->2003 ; 2003->2006 ; 2006->2010 Female 1970->1990 ![]() Female 1990->1995 ![]() Female 1995->2000 ![]() Female 2000->2003 ![]() Female 2003->2006 ![]() Female 2006->2010 ![]() Female 1970->2010 (sum up) ![]() Male 1970->1990 ![]() Male 1990->1995 ![]() Male 1995->2000 ![]() Male 2000->2003 ![]() Male 2003->2006 ![]() Male 2006->2010 ![]() Male 1970->2010 (sum up) ![]() Other interesting slices, showing dogs under 15yrs, under 10yrs, under 8years, and under 6years (under 4years can be found in previous post). Who knows how to make a gif animation ? Female 1995->2010 ![]() Female 2000->2010 ![]() Female 2002->2010 ![]() Female 2004->2010 ![]() Male 1995->2010 ![]() Male 2000->2010 ![]() Male 2002->2010 ![]() Male 2004->2010 ![]()
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Dear all,
I lately was wondering about character transmission in the breed. As we can see in bonitation code stats, transmission seems to be high. Also reported by J. Jedlička here: http://www.sky.cz/seda-eminence/povahycsv.pdf : "Because different types of character does not lie on the linear scale is obtained from the frequency to determine the overall character or additive variance and heritability identify methods of regression parents and offspring, or siblings of the correlation. We have, however, subject to overlapping generations, data needed to determine dedivosti realized, and in this way an estimate of heritability interval h2 = <0.40, 0.49>, ie 40 to 49%. In the context of published work referred overview of literature on the value of unexpected high." The values from litterature (exemple paper: The genetic contribution to canine personality : http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/c...18232/PDFSTART ), are really much lower: ![]() So, biais introduced from bonitation, or really breed caracteristic ?
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Added "CZ breeding groups" feature in the Stat tool, let me know if it's working properly. You can also use + feature between IDs to simulate a mating. Exemples: Akim z Revíru vlku Akim z Revíru vlku + Arielle la Seven Loup Cie BREEDING GROUPS Here is what can help, I added "Breeding groups" to the tool, basically it search in a dog pedigree (or planned mating) the presence of another dog (and its %). Let say I want to know if Cett Malý Bysterec has Amur z Dáblova kanonu in it's pedigree, I find both dog ID with Find ID, then in "Enter dog ID:" I enter the ID of Cett Malý Bysterec (6382) and in "ID to check in pedigree: " the ID of Amur z Dáblova kanonu (796) It gives: http://www.amicale-chien-loup-tcheco...d_to_check=796 => Amur z Dáblova kanonu is not in Cett Malý Bysterec pedigree Check for Káj z Rosíkova CS in Cett Malý Bysterec pedigree: http://www.amicale-chien-loup-tcheco...d_to_check=929 => Káj z Rosíkova CS is in Cett Malý Bysterec pedigree, and we see how. Check for Dinon Dánon Fehérlófia in Oliver Passo del Lupo pedigree: http://www.amicale-chien-loup-tcheco..._to_check=1043 NB: we can also use the + operator to check for a mating, for exemple does Cutt ---dell Irco Sortiere--- (3584) would be in pedigree of Furcas z Peronówki (781 ![]() ![]() Does Cita z Doušova dvora would be in pedigree of Furcas z Peronówki + Orion Eden severu : http://www.amicale-chien-loup-tcheco...d_to_check=924 And so on...
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