Puppy in California

[sciamalaia]

There was as similar topic on the Polish forum but people stopped adding their CSVs 'crimes', when some others started commenting how nice and gentle wolfdogs they had.
But:
I read the topic after a couple of years and realised that some of the greatest wolfdog troublemakers, that in their 'teenage' period literally walked on the walls, grew up to be lovely, predictable and well-trained animals and some of the "perfect pups" that destroyed nothing were later abandoned by their owners for some unknown reasons...

I know... it is in Italian, but this Thread is amazing and very very useful for us to let new owners "know"... you can see the photos and make your own conlusions.

[Mikael]

This is very off topic but we had one here to >>> http://www.wolfdog.org/forum/showthr...ht=Destruction

But I think it is locked away in the forum basement even if you post I do not think it will show on the 10 top list...

Very best regards / Mikael

[rivals]

Old thread, but is this pup still in CA? I live there and I'd love a chance to meet one. Vicky actually sparked my interest in the breed recently and recommended me to the forums. It's going to be a long time till I'll be able to actually get one but spending some time with one would be great

I'd also like to say there is a ton of great information here and I've been reading the board constantly as well as all of the articles I've found here over the last week or two.

[GalomyOak]

Sorry, no - this puppy has found another happy new home in another state.

[rivals]

That is pretty much definitely the best for the pup in this situation. I just can't believe someone would be so pushy to have to bring a dog in immediately and then a few months later just try to get rid of it as quickly as possible

[GalomyOak]

Originally Posted by rivals

That is pretty much definitely the best for the pup in this situation. I just can't believe someone would be so pushy to have to bring a dog in immediately and then a few months later just try to get rid of it as quickly as possible

Sadly, out of the 50-60 dogs that have been imported to the US and Canada, I know of 5 of these stories. 4 of them had happy outcomes...the other, did not, I think. Several owners have had real struggles, but managed to ride out the "storm" of adolescence and have reached the peaceful side of maturity. As a breeder here, I get so many emails from people who are totally inappropriate or not in the right place of life to take on a big committment...people in the US have such a different idea of dog ownership - almost delusional sometimes - about their capabilities, or what a dog like ours actually needs in terms of mental stimulation, exercise, socialization, etc. Later, I see that they have imported - and I immediately try to make contact so they have support. Young people often find it totally acceptable to turn their dog into rescue or the pound, others blame all the problems on the dog (rather than their human abilities) and ponder whether their dog is genetically "dangerous" - and ask my opinion if they should euthanize. It's really scary for me...especially when they are across the US and far from driving distance...but I always try to offer assistance if I can.

[rivals]

Yeah, I'd imagine as being a breeder you probably see the worst of it. After seeing so many terrible breeders though this community is a sight for sore eyes in that aspect. I don't think I'll ever be able to understand people who think that just dumping their dog at the shelter or putting it down because they are difficult as a puppy is acceptable. I actually had a good discussion with Vicky recently regarding the difference in the average quality of breeders between the US and Europe as well as the level of knowledge the average dog owner has and just how much that seems to differ.

That's a pretty high rate of dogs needing rehoming I hoped it would be smaller, that maybe since it's such a new breed especially here in the US that the people importing them would be more responsible. I definitely agree though that so many people in the US who have dogs really just don't understand how much responsibility it is. I live in a college town right near the campus and on my block and the next block there are at least 5 dogs who are kept primarily outdoors, never exercised, and constantly bark and whine. It's really depressing. The average college student who just wants a dog because they grew up with one or whatever really has no idea what it means to really care for one (and I say this as a college student graduating in 3 months who spends pretty much every second of his free time with his dogs ). This is a rant that I could go on about for way too long, but the way so many people handle having dogs in the US is really sad.

[draggar]

Originally Posted by GalomyOak

Several owners have had real struggles, but managed to ride out the "storm" of adolescence and have reached the peaceful side of maturity.

Hence her nick name "Hurricane Luna".

I don't think I've ever had a dog that's had this much energy but around 7 months old she started to calm down, she's almost 8 months now.

The only really high energy time now is when she and Pongo are out together. Then it's a category 5 hurricane. He still has a lot of energy but hopefully he'll start to calm down in the next few months, I think he just turned 6 months a few weeks ago. (Is his breeder here? Was his birthday Feb 3 or March 2?).

But - I was proactive and to keep it out of the hands of squatters, I did register vlcakrescue.com and vlcakrescue.org (both now point to the CsVCA website).

As for EU breeders contacting people in the USA, while it is a great idea I'm sure there are some breeders who don't want to bother with that with the fear of losing a sale and if the prospective owner is rejected by one breeder, they can just go to another and another until they get what they want.