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Old 10-05-2010, 20:15   #1
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Dear all,

I lately was wondering about character transmission in the breed. As we can see in bonitation code stats, transmission seems to be high. Also reported by J. Jedlička here: http://www.sky.cz/seda-eminence/povahycsv.pdf :

"Because different types of character does not lie on the linear scale is obtained from the frequency
to determine the overall character or additive variance and heritability identify methods of regression
parents and offspring, or siblings of the correlation. We have, however, subject to overlapping generations,
data needed to determine dedivosti realized, and in this way an estimate of heritability
interval h2 = <0.40, 0.49>, ie 40 to 49%. In the context of published work referred
overview of literature on the value of unexpected high."


The values from litterature (exemple paper: The genetic contribution to canine personality : http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/c...18232/PDFSTART ), are really much lower:




So, biais introduced from bonitation, or really breed caracteristic ?
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Old 10-06-2010, 13:46   #2
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Posts gathering:

Added "CZ breeding groups" feature in the Stat tool, let me know if it's working properly. You can also use + feature between IDs to simulate a mating.

Exemples:

Akim z Revíru vlku
Akim z Revíru vlku + Arielle la Seven Loup Cie

BREEDING GROUPS

Here is what can help, I added "Breeding groups" to the tool, basically it search in a dog pedigree (or planned mating) the presence of another dog (and its %).

Let say I want to know if Cett Malý Bysterec has Amur z Dáblova kanonu in it's pedigree, I find both dog ID with Find ID, then in "Enter dog ID:" I enter the ID of Cett Malý Bysterec (6382) and in "ID to check in pedigree: " the ID of Amur z Dáblova kanonu (796) It gives: http://www.amicale-chien-loup-tcheco...d_to_check=796





=> Amur z Dáblova kanonu is not in Cett Malý Bysterec pedigree

Check for Káj z Rosíkova CS in Cett Malý Bysterec pedigree: http://www.amicale-chien-loup-tcheco...d_to_check=929

=> Káj z Rosíkova CS is in Cett Malý Bysterec pedigree, and we see how.

Check for Dinon Dánon Fehérlófia in Oliver Passo del Lupo pedigree: http://www.amicale-chien-loup-tcheco..._to_check=1043

NB: we can also use the + operator to check for a mating, for exemple does Cutt ---dell Irco Sortiere--- (3584) would be in pedigree of Furcas z Peronówki (781 + Orion Eden severu (796, I enter 7818+7968 in Enter dog ID and 3584 in ID to check in pedigree: http://www.amicale-chien-loup-tcheco..._to_check=3584



Does Cita z Doušova dvora would be in pedigree of Furcas z Peronówki + Orion Eden severu : http://www.amicale-chien-loup-tcheco...d_to_check=924

And so on...
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Old 10-06-2010, 17:42   #3
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Aaaaa, thanks I did not know one can + a dog

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Old 21-10-2010, 12:46   #4
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I made available in the tool the mean kinship of (living) CSV:

"Find dogs mean kinship, display first xxxx dogs [Display matching dogs]"

For each dog the calcul has been made against random 2000 (living) CSV. You can see more info here: http://www.canine-genetics.com/relation.htm
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Old 21-10-2010, 23:56   #5
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Hello Anthony,

Many thanks for this very valuable addition to your already fantastic program! The possibility for calculating the COI and the AVK, now together with the Mean Kinship (MK), is a very important tool to prevent further narrowing of the gene pool. For those interested in understanding the mean kinship, here's another site where the considerable interest of animals with a low MK value within a (relatively small) closed population, in the context of the importance of genetic variation is clarified.

Great job Anthony!

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Old 08-01-2011, 21:22   #6
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Hi everyone,

I decided not to upgrade the database of the stat tool, so everything will stay as is. I hope you had nice time learning the CSV with it.

Cheers

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Hi everyone,

I decided not to upgrade the database of the stat tool, so everything will stay as is. I hope you had nice time learning the CSV with it.

Cheers

A.
Ooooo, Nooooo, Wayyyyy

Can we pay you for you time to update it ones a year ???

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Old 09-01-2011, 11:50   #8
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Hi everyone,

I decided not to upgrade the database of the stat tool, so everything will stay as is. I hope you had nice time learning the CSV with it.

Cheers

A.
Hi Anthony,
That I regret very much! Especially now that the inbreeding/puppy tool no longer works for months on wolfdog.

In any case, many thanks for all the work you've put in it; I'll still often use it!
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