Calculation of Wolf blood?

r0d · 23-06-2010, 00:05

Thank you for your answers, both of you !

I was wondering if there was a blog or website, because when i saw these pictures, i thought "Besinka doesn't seems to be top secret so what's her story ?".

But of course i can understand that people who own a wolf or an hybrid illegaly want to keep this as secret as possible.
It didn't seem to be the same with Besinka and you just have confirmed this

"Voilà"

(Edit: just to be sure... i have understood that they have allowance for Besinka. No more missunderstood with my bad english please

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hanninadina · 23-06-2010, 00:19

"People stay in the shadow" you wrote. That means for me that they are not open. Sorry, if I did missunderstand you and you meant "only" a blog pp.

Rod, they have an allowance because they have 4 wolves and they live direct at the street and everyone who passes by can see them. And of course not only see them but they howl from time to time. So there is nothing to hide.

Maybe they will come over to me in july or I will go over there. These are very nice people and they are "older" that is why they do not have a homepage or blog. I am 47 so you can imagine what I mean with older.

Christian

Angelika · 23-06-2010, 00:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by r0d

just to be sure... i have understood that they have allowance for Besinka.

I don´t know, r0d. And I´m sceptical of people who own CsW and wolves. There is always someone who wants to refresh the "calculation of wolf blood".

Voilà

Hanka · 23-06-2010, 06:21

They have some csw, but they don´t breed them longer time.
http://www.wolfdog.org/eng/dbase/o32.html

Angelika · 23-06-2010, 16:05

Thank you, Hanka

06-08-2010, 04:07

I just read this on the Wolf Park website and thought it would be applicable to share.

I think this is what they used to lecture off of when we did our wolf & dog seminar there, really suggest it to anyone who could make it!

http://wolfpark.org/ccpage3.shtml

Gypsy Wolf · 06-08-2010, 04:28

Very cool article. Regardless of "content" or percentage, I see in my own vlcaks the difference. And it makes me wonder if it is really possible to have a dog that looks like a wolf but acts like a dog? If temperament follows phenotype, perhaps we will always have an issue with wolfy behavior in wolfy-looking vlcaks. Either that or we just need more generations of selective breeding to get it right. After all we are a relatively new breed... I just wish I'd been around to see a vlcak like Rep z Pohranicni Straze - supposedly the perfect vlcak - wolfy looking but super character...

hanninadina · 07-08-2010, 00:21

But Rep was "Hybrid" F 2? How can it be that such an animal has super character????? Did not everybody tell that "Hybrids" can not have "super" character? His grandfather from fathers side was Sarik, male wolf cross bred in 1974!

Science says: If you do selective breeding you have a dog at F 3
generation. Karel Hartl told the same! Some of course are with F 2 a dog, for example Rep?! I personally do know nothing about Rep his character. I only saw some pictures, where it seems that he looks nice.

By the way I got yesterday a link to the book about the german shepards from breed founder Max von Stephanitz from 1921(!). There are a lot of nice pictures from the original breed in it. And of course one picture where a gsd and a wolf are leashed side by side. And a F 1 from gsd and wolf who looks like wolfy csw. The book is in german but, really funny, out of a library in North Carolina. Someone scanned it and now it is in internet for free. Who is interested can send me an eMail or sms.

Good night
Christian

23-06-2010, 00:05	#1
r0d Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 2,362	Thank you for your answers, both of you ! I was wondering if there was a blog or website, because when i saw these pictures, i thought "Besinka doesn't seems to be top secret so what's her story ?". But of course i can understand that people who own a wolf or an hybrid illegaly want to keep this as secret as possible. It didn't seem to be the same with Besinka and you just have confirmed this "Voilà" (Edit: just to be sure... i have understood that they have allowance for Besinka. No more missunderstood with my bad english please ) __________________ Le blog de Follow -- La Confrérie Lupoïde -- chien-loup tchécoslovaque Last edited by r0d; 23-06-2010 at 00:10.

23-06-2010, 00:19	#2
hanninadina Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 2,466	"People stay in the shadow" you wrote. That means for me that they are not open. Sorry, if I did missunderstand you and you meant "only" a blog pp. Rod, they have an allowance because they have 4 wolves and they live direct at the street and everyone who passes by can see them. And of course not only see them but they howl from time to time. So there is nothing to hide. Maybe they will come over to me in july or I will go over there. These are very nice people and they are "older" that is why they do not have a homepage or blog. I am 47 so you can imagine what I mean with older. Christian

23-06-2010, 06:21	#4
Hanka Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Kadaň Posts: 1,622	They have some csw, but they don´t breed them longer time. http://www.wolfdog.org/eng/dbase/o32.html

23-06-2010, 16:05	#5
Angelika Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 847	Thank you, Hanka

06-08-2010, 04:07	#6
Vicky Guest Posts: n/a	I just read this on the Wolf Park website and thought it would be applicable to share. I think this is what they used to lecture off of when we did our wolf & dog seminar there, really suggest it to anyone who could make it! http://wolfpark.org/ccpage3.shtml

06-08-2010, 04:28	#7
Gypsy Wolf Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Florida & Minnesota U.S. Posts: 252	Very cool article. Regardless of "content" or percentage, I see in my own vlcaks the difference. And it makes me wonder if it is really possible to have a dog that looks like a wolf but acts like a dog? If temperament follows phenotype, perhaps we will always have an issue with wolfy behavior in wolfy-looking vlcaks. Either that or we just need more generations of selective breeding to get it right. After all we are a relatively new breed... I just wish I'd been around to see a vlcak like Rep z Pohranicni Straze - supposedly the perfect vlcak - wolfy looking but super character...

07-08-2010, 00:21	#8
hanninadina Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 2,466	But Rep was "Hybrid" F 2? How can it be that such an animal has super character????? Did not everybody tell that "Hybrids" can not have "super" character? His grandfather from fathers side was Sarik, male wolf cross bred in 1974! Science says: If you do selective breeding you have a dog at F 3 generation. Karel Hartl told the same! Some of course are with F 2 a dog, for example Rep?! I personally do know nothing about Rep his character. I only saw some pictures, where it seems that he looks nice. By the way I got yesterday a link to the book about the german shepards from breed founder Max von Stephanitz from 1921(!). There are a lot of nice pictures from the original breed in it. And of course one picture where a gsd and a wolf are leashed side by side. And a F 1 from gsd and wolf who looks like wolfy csw. The book is in german but, really funny, out of a library in North Carolina. Someone scanned it and now it is in internet for free. Who is interested can send me an eMail or sms. Good night Christian