The fun in raising a puppy...

draggar · 30-07-2010, 17:59

Sara has done that, too (not 15 years, though) but at least if there is an issue she'll listen to me (and it's happened before). I think Pongo and Luna are good for each other. Kiri is a bitch (especially with her puppies now) so she's not a good playmate, Maiya is 9 and an old lady, she doesn't like to play and Zorro likes to play a little, on his own terms (even though he's 7) so they're good for each other (about 2 months apart in age) they both have the endless supply of energy that they can play with each other.

yukidomari · 30-07-2010, 18:02

Might not have worded it right - I only meant 'not good' as in they learn naughty behaviors from each other.. which seems to be the case..

Puppy socializing with other puppies is great fun and a great outlet, but it doesn't teach them the same things that a stable adult dog could.

That's all. Sorry bout the misunderstanding.

draggar · 30-07-2010, 18:22

Zorro and Maiya are good influences on them. Both are calm, stable, and very secure. If they get obnoxious to the adults, then they'll get a snark, sometimes even a small correction - so yes, if they're too naughty, they're told so.

Pongo is getting to be quite the nipper, too. I think he's going to become a butt-biter.

draggar · 10-08-2010, 17:27

We've had our first casualty. Pongo was being, well, a pully, and decided to grab my work laptop bag and pull it off the table.

It came crashing down. The laptop is OK but now there are some blotches on my iPod screen. Luckily, I just use it for music, no videos etc.

Yes, we try to puppy proof our home but he jumped up and grabbed it (he's become quite the nipper - we need to correct that ASAP!)

Mikael · 10-08-2010, 20:07

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Originally Posted by draggar

I think he's going to become a butt-biter.

Yep, raising a puppy is very very fun

Keep up the good work !!!

Best regards / Mikael

Gypsy Wolf · 11-08-2010, 03:49

Yes, well, Pongo is becoming a butt-head. I always had a feeling he had the potential to be a jerk... Though there are some who disagree, I raise puppies the way I was taught by longtime SchH mentors - puppies are allowed to be puppies. No pressure. That said, I DO use food to teach them basic behaviors, and certainly BAD behavior is NOT tolerated... but other than that, they are allowed free rein. They can be rambunctious and obnoxious and I find it develops confidence and a little bit of cockiness - necessary (I think) for SchH.
Anyway, that's one reason Pongo is here - so that he can be as bratty as he wants and not get into (too much) trouble. We want his confidence level high.
So, I am working on developing his tug game - full, hard grips, building his drive for the toy, etc... well I also started to make him have to work harder for the toy (fighting him a little) and frustrating him with waiting a second or two for it... apparently, that is NOT pleasing to him - he got pissed off last night and nipped my thigh!
As soon as I yelled "ACK!" at him to interrupt the behavior, he had already released, and was SMILING, tongue lolling out of the side of his mouth...
BRAT!

draggar · 17-08-2010, 20:29

Just a quick update - Luna is maturing nicely. She still barks and whines in her crate at night but not as much as she used to (15-30 minutes as opposed to 30-90 minutes). When she's out alone (and by alone, I mean without Pongo) she's very good. She may get some energy spirts (run around like a lunatic), but that's expected in a breed like this.

Pongo is still immature and is starting to nip, even bite people at times (non-aggressive, puppy play). We need to curb / eliminate this behavior ASAP because it can be very bad as an adult. He's also extremely fast and agile.

yukidomari · 17-08-2010, 20:53

Great to hear!

How is Pongo taking crate training? Better/worse/equal with Luna?

18-08-2010, 03:39

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Originally Posted by draggar

Pongo is still immature and is starting to nip, even bite people at times (non-aggressive, puppy play). We need to curb / eliminate this behavior ASAP because it can be very bad as an adult. He's also extremely fast and agile.

I have a question (more for Sara, I suppose). With Pongo mouthing so much, and with the shyness he's show in the past, are you still planning on doing Schutzhund with him? How is his obedience coming along aside from all that? Granted I've never worked with a protection dog before, but I would personally be afraid of encouraging bad behaviors as a side effect. Any ideas what your future plans are?

Rona · 18-08-2010, 07:31

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Originally Posted by draggar

Pongo is still immature and is starting to nip, even bite people at times (non-aggressive, puppy play). We need to curb / eliminate this behavior ASAP because it can be very bad as an adult. He's also extremely fast and agile.

It seems from my limited observation that quiet vlcaks nip more than those that communicate by making noises...

In our case what helped at lot was to teach the command "plug". When our pup was compelled to nip when welcoming us or visitors she was praised for picking up a toy to keep her mouth engaged...

30-07-2010, 17:59	#1
draggar Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: New Hampshire Posts: 370	Sara has done that, too (not 15 years, though) but at least if there is an issue she'll listen to me (and it's happened before). I think Pongo and Luna are good for each other. Kiri is a bitch (especially with her puppies now) so she's not a good playmate, Maiya is 9 and an old lady, she doesn't like to play and Zorro likes to play a little, on his own terms (even though he's 7) so they're good for each other (about 2 months apart in age) they both have the endless supply of energy that they can play with each other. __________________ Fred Lanting's Official Site Dog Actors

30-07-2010, 18:22	#3
draggar Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: New Hampshire Posts: 370	Zorro and Maiya are good influences on them. Both are calm, stable, and very secure. If they get obnoxious to the adults, then they'll get a snark, sometimes even a small correction - so yes, if they're too naughty, they're told so. Pongo is getting to be quite the nipper, too. I think he's going to become a butt-biter. __________________ Fred Lanting's Official Site Dog Actors

10-08-2010, 17:27	#4
draggar Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: New Hampshire Posts: 370	We've had our first casualty. Pongo was being, well, a pully, and decided to grab my work laptop bag and pull it off the table. It came crashing down. The laptop is OK but now there are some blotches on my iPod screen. Luckily, I just use it for music, no videos etc. Yes, we try to puppy proof our home but he jumped up and grabbed it (he's become quite the nipper - we need to correct that ASAP!) __________________ Fred Lanting's Official Site Dog Actors

17-08-2010, 20:29	#7
draggar Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: New Hampshire Posts: 370	Just a quick update - Luna is maturing nicely. She still barks and whines in her crate at night but not as much as she used to (15-30 minutes as opposed to 30-90 minutes). When she's out alone (and by alone, I mean without Pongo) she's very good. She may get some energy spirts (run around like a lunatic), but that's expected in a breed like this. Pongo is still immature and is starting to nip, even bite people at times (non-aggressive, puppy play). We need to curb / eliminate this behavior ASAP because it can be very bad as an adult. He's also extremely fast and agile. __________________ Fred Lanting's Official Site Dog Actors

30-07-2010, 18:02	#2
yukidomari Moderator Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Los Angeles CA Posts: 847	Might not have worded it right - I only meant 'not good' as in they learn naughty behaviors from each other.. which seems to be the case.. Puppy socializing with other puppies is great fun and a great outlet, but it doesn't teach them the same things that a stable adult dog could. That's all. Sorry bout the misunderstanding.

11-08-2010, 03:49	#6
Gypsy Wolf Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Florida & Minnesota U.S. Posts: 252	Yes, well, Pongo is becoming a butt-head. I always had a feeling he had the potential to be a jerk... Though there are some who disagree, I raise puppies the way I was taught by longtime SchH mentors - puppies are allowed to be puppies. No pressure. That said, I DO use food to teach them basic behaviors, and certainly BAD behavior is NOT tolerated... but other than that, they are allowed free rein. They can be rambunctious and obnoxious and I find it develops confidence and a little bit of cockiness - necessary (I think) for SchH. Anyway, that's one reason Pongo is here - so that he can be as bratty as he wants and not get into (too much) trouble. We want his confidence level high. So, I am working on developing his tug game - full, hard grips, building his drive for the toy, etc... well I also started to make him have to work harder for the toy (fighting him a little) and frustrating him with waiting a second or two for it... apparently, that is NOT pleasing to him - he got pissed off last night and nipped my thigh! As soon as I yelled "ACK!" at him to interrupt the behavior, he had already released, and was SMILING, tongue lolling out of the side of his mouth... BRAT!

17-08-2010, 20:53	#8
yukidomari Moderator Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Los Angeles CA Posts: 847	Great to hear! How is Pongo taking crate training? Better/worse/equal with Luna?