Zacarias lupus ibericus and erwan grey

TipTop · 01-09-2010, 01:29

Oh, sorry!
I can read and understand those documents with no problem at all.
What I cant understand is the text in 'english'.
Can someone translate it in english, or better, why not discuss that in the spanish forum? Looks like its easier for u guys write in spanish than english.
Am I right?

carlos2207 · 01-09-2010, 23:25

Anyone translate this documents? Well I translate it.

Our friend Erwan Grey say "I've been silent long enough time until the law has done its job." And this documents are the proof.

Ok this is the proof, for if anyone not know Erwan Grey, of the type of person that he is.

We can see 4 documents. doc 1,2,3 and 4 ok?

For understand it we need the history, Erwan Grey framed me, not payment my dog and I give Erwan one contrat of coownership signed by me and Erwan the 22 of november of 2009. This is the documents 4 and 3 THE ORIGIAL CONTRAT. As you can see this document 4 have our indentification and the indentification of my dog Zacarias, nº microchip... and finish with the agreement. Julio have the dog, the cost of food and veterinary is for Julio, In document 3 you can see free mates for my kennel, and 50% of money for other mates. And finish with the paiment. WILL BE 600E. AS YOU CAN SEE THIS IS FUTURE. because Erwan not payment.

Erwan not want payment and began to demand the authorization for change the microchip to his name. I said that he not payment and demand it and not give Erwan the authorization. This is very important because Erwan Grey began to threaten with his more that 10.000 person that he know in facebook for to say all people his false history of the Ill of my dog. And any one of the othe breeders want to do any relation and with me. This is a fragment of one mail of Erwan Grey:

"Hasta hoy , he mantenido callada la boca tanto en el blog o el facebook que siguen por internet mas de 10.000 personas relacionadas con esta raza o de los perros en general "

"Si quieres, empiezo a contar a los 4 vientos como está siendo tu inicio en el mundo de la cria y lo bien que estas haciendo las cosas, que por si no te estas dando cuenta NO LAS ESTAS HACIENDO BIEN. NO creo que a los propietarios de los perros o los sementales les guste mucho que escuchen la version de como te estas comportando."

carlos2207 · 01-09-2010, 23:28

And Erwan began his campaing of lies against me. And Erwan looking one solution for his problem of microchip. Spain have 17 mini states (comunidades autónomas) and he thought... I need one veterinary, friendly, that put Zacarias at my name in the data base of Valencia because this data base is other and different of the data base of Murcia (ORIGINAL MINI STATE OF ZACARIAS). And The document 2 is the request for inscription Zacarias, my dog, at name of Erwan Grey WITHOUT MY AUTHORIZATION AND SING.

We can see first in the document 2 "Solicitud de alta de animales.... Translated Request of introduce new owner of animals WITHOUT IDENTIFICATION SUFFICIENT... and continue with the identification of Julio...AND VERY IMPORTANT THE DAY OF REGISTER THIS DOCUMENT 08/01/10. THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT!!!!!

The document 1 is the results of this Request. RIVIA is the name of register of microchip animals and owner, name and microchip of may dog Zacarias, and other date tha is very interesting about the 2 big knowledge of our friend of this breed. "Raza: Cruzado" Breed: Crossed.
PLEASED WE CAN SEE THE TIME OF THIS DOCUMENT 08/01/10

carlos2207 · 01-09-2010, 23:42

WE CAN SEE THE "I've been silent long enough time until the law has done its job." ERWAN GREY.

THIS IS OTHER LIE OF FACTORY ERWAN GREY. REMEMBER THAT ERWAN GIVE MY DOG AT OTHER PERSON BECAUSE IS A FREE DOG, UNPAYMENT DOG.

WHAT IS THE PROBLEM OF ERWAN GREY, THAT IS VERY INTELIGENG. HE STAR HIS CAMPAING OF LIES ABOUT ME AND I DEFEND ME AND SAY THE TRUE. AND NOW IF WE PUT IN GOOGLE "ERWAN GREY" YOU CAN SEE THAT IN THE FIRTS POSITION "GRAVES PROBLEMAS CON ERWAN GREY" "BIG PROBLEMS WITH ERWAN GREY" EN THE SPANISH FORO OF WOLFDOG. AND ALL PEOPLE KNOW THE TIPE OF PERSON IS.

http://www.foros.net/viewtopic.php?t...PerroLoboCheco

ERWAN BEGAN OTHER CAMPAIN OF BULLYING AGAINT THE ADMINISTRATOR AND MODERATOR OF THE SPANISH FORO OF CHECOSLOVAQUIAN WOLFDOG. DEMAND THAT DELETE THIS THEME. AND IF NOT DELETE ERWAN WILL DO LAW ACTIONS AGAINST TUKY AND KAIKU. WE CAN SEE THE TIPE OF PERSON THAT IS THIS LOVER OF ANIMALS

WHEN ERWAN BEGAN THIS CAMPAING OF LIES I DIDN´T BELIVED. WHY? AND THIS IS A BOOMERANG WITH THE TIME. AND THE BOOMERANG IS IN THE FACE OF ERWAN GREY. VERY VERY INTELIGENG ERWAN, I SEE.

ERWAN YOU HAVE THE FUITS OF YOUR BEHAVIOR

CARLOS

Enid Black · 02-09-2010, 10:54

Guys, I speak both English and Spanish, but your English is terrible and totally incomprehensible...

and in all this story, the only one who will really PAY (not payment, payment is the noun, d**n it, not the verb!! Check a dictionary for heaven's sake!!), is the poor Zacharias, abandoned by his former owner 'cause he had no time (this is what can be interpretated by what you wrote, if it is not so, please rewrite!) to follow him.

I followed all the history, even in Spanish forum. You two are only quarreling on line like two old ladies without anything better to do. And the dog is paying everything.

Go to a judge and finish this story once for all!

hanninadina · 03-09-2010, 00:23

Hola Carlos,

keep cool. I know these f.....g guys like E G very well. I have the same probs. But it is always the same, they hit in their own face. You are a nice person and you have very nice dogs. And people know that.

But you see, don´t sell pups without getting the money at once. Learn from this nasty case.

Christian
www.wolfdogs-siouxtala.de

Mikael · 03-09-2010, 18:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by hanninadina

But you see, don´t sell pups without getting the money at once. Learn from this nasty case.

Christian

Agree, but this was to be a Co owned dog and I therefor think that the problem would be the same

To Carlos...

But way did Erwan not pay the 50% at all

???

And way does he think the dog is now 100% he´s

???

Everybody know that a dog can and probably will get sick and cost extra money to treat, besides the cost for insurance, food, medicine, tests and mooooore...
It does not mean one will own a Co dog if you have to pay allot for the treatment

Best regards / Mikael

alberto_cepedano · 05-09-2010, 00:10

erwan. yours is amazing, so much love for Zachary and now you've given. Where is your love for this dog? do not keep playing with people with so many lies.

Nebulosa · 08-09-2010, 01:13

Enough of both.
Is very hard to understand what you both are trying to write, I really dont understand why you're trying pass this problem to english forum, even if it's international, is for nothing when people are not able to understand what's going on!
People, you dont have to write English perfectly, but at least, good enough to express yourself.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Erwan grey

I've been silent long enough time until the law has done its job.

Sorry, but there is nothing signed by a judge in the documents you've posted, there is only a piece of the co-ownership contract, a paper that points you as owner of a dog called Zacharias signed by a vet and the microchip of a MIXED (because there is write "cruzado" instead of "Perro Lobo Checoslovaco"), so only here we can meet 3 possible situations, no one good for you:
1- You've took a non-breed dog and asked to a vet add the microchip.
2- You've add a new microchip in the poor Zacharias after took away the original.
3- This document is a complete fake.

So, this "document" is now saved in my computer, in case Carlos need it in the court.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Erwan grey

My grief for this event has been so deep that I will not ever know anything more about this race, not bad, but bad memories that I will bring to mind thanks to this gentleman.

Stupid senseless excuse, the conclusion we all can arrive here, simply, the breed is not for everyone, and was not for you as well.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Erwan Grey

I will not say nothing more about this subject, but the next legal failure is made in this forum about my people will require action by the law as I have done in another forum Spanish.

First of all, you or "your people" never sent a message to Admin according to the proper Admin, wich is responsible for the webpage building and the database.
I, as official owner of this webpage, never received any message from you about it, and only to refresh your mind, I dont live nor in Spain nor in Europe, so we're not talking more about Spanish laws only, but also about International Internet laws IF accepted by Brazil, and brazilian laws about internet.
So i'm waiting you take your legal action for I take mine, but everything what is wrote here, will stay here untill I receive in my home a Judicial Order to do something.

About this topic, it will be locked, Erwan Grey and Carlos will only be alowed to post about it after send me an autenticate copy of the official papers of the court, with the end of the case IF it be realy in the court.
It's the last chance, if Erwan or Carlos revive this topic again for nothing, I will ban who did it forever.

And Carlos, Caps-lock is not wellcome here as it means that you're "screaming", sounds very hysterical.

01-09-2010, 01:29	#1
TipTop Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Estoril, Portugal Posts: 37	Oh, sorry! I can read and understand those documents with no problem at all. What I cant understand is the text in 'english'. Can someone translate it in english, or better, why not discuss that in the spanish forum? Looks like its easier for u guys write in spanish than english. Am I right? __________________ I choose my friends by the way they treat animals.

01-09-2010, 23:25	#2
carlos2207 Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 48	Anyone translate this documents? Well I translate it. Our friend Erwan Grey say "I've been silent long enough time until the law has done its job." And this documents are the proof. Ok this is the proof, for if anyone not know Erwan Grey, of the type of person that he is. We can see 4 documents. doc 1,2,3 and 4 ok? For understand it we need the history, Erwan Grey framed me, not payment my dog and I give Erwan one contrat of coownership signed by me and Erwan the 22 of november of 2009. This is the documents 4 and 3 THE ORIGIAL CONTRAT. As you can see this document 4 have our indentification and the indentification of my dog Zacarias, nº microchip... and finish with the agreement. Julio have the dog, the cost of food and veterinary is for Julio, In document 3 you can see free mates for my kennel, and 50% of money for other mates. And finish with the paiment. WILL BE 600E. AS YOU CAN SEE THIS IS FUTURE. because Erwan not payment. Erwan not want payment and began to demand the authorization for change the microchip to his name. I said that he not payment and demand it and not give Erwan the authorization. This is very important because Erwan Grey began to threaten with his more that 10.000 person that he know in facebook for to say all people his false history of the Ill of my dog. And any one of the othe breeders want to do any relation and with me. This is a fragment of one mail of Erwan Grey: "Hasta hoy , he mantenido callada la boca tanto en el blog o el facebook que siguen por internet mas de 10.000 personas relacionadas con esta raza o de los perros en general " "Si quieres, empiezo a contar a los 4 vientos como está siendo tu inicio en el mundo de la cria y lo bien que estas haciendo las cosas, que por si no te estas dando cuenta NO LAS ESTAS HACIENDO BIEN. NO creo que a los propietarios de los perros o los sementales les guste mucho que escuchen la version de como te estas comportando." __________________ www.lupusibericus.com

01-09-2010, 23:28	#3
carlos2207 Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 48	And Erwan began his campaing of lies against me. And Erwan looking one solution for his problem of microchip. Spain have 17 mini states (comunidades autónomas) and he thought... I need one veterinary, friendly, that put Zacarias at my name in the data base of Valencia because this data base is other and different of the data base of Murcia (ORIGINAL MINI STATE OF ZACARIAS). And The document 2 is the request for inscription Zacarias, my dog, at name of Erwan Grey WITHOUT MY AUTHORIZATION AND SING. We can see first in the document 2 "Solicitud de alta de animales.... Translated Request of introduce new owner of animals WITHOUT IDENTIFICATION SUFFICIENT... and continue with the identification of Julio...AND VERY IMPORTANT THE DAY OF REGISTER THIS DOCUMENT 08/01/10. THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT!!!!! The document 1 is the results of this Request. RIVIA is the name of register of microchip animals and owner, name and microchip of may dog Zacarias, and other date tha is very interesting about the 2 big knowledge of our friend of this breed. "Raza: Cruzado" Breed: Crossed. PLEASED WE CAN SEE THE TIME OF THIS DOCUMENT 08/01/10 __________________ www.lupusibericus.com Last edited by carlos2207; 01-09-2010 at 23:44.

01-09-2010, 23:42	#4
carlos2207 Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 48	Erwan grey WE CAN SEE THE "I've been silent long enough time until the law has done its job." ERWAN GREY. THIS IS OTHER LIE OF FACTORY ERWAN GREY. REMEMBER THAT ERWAN GIVE MY DOG AT OTHER PERSON BECAUSE IS A FREE DOG, UNPAYMENT DOG. WHAT IS THE PROBLEM OF ERWAN GREY, THAT IS VERY INTELIGENG. HE STAR HIS CAMPAING OF LIES ABOUT ME AND I DEFEND ME AND SAY THE TRUE. AND NOW IF WE PUT IN GOOGLE "ERWAN GREY" YOU CAN SEE THAT IN THE FIRTS POSITION "GRAVES PROBLEMAS CON ERWAN GREY" "BIG PROBLEMS WITH ERWAN GREY" EN THE SPANISH FORO OF WOLFDOG. AND ALL PEOPLE KNOW THE TIPE OF PERSON IS. http://www.foros.net/viewtopic.php?t...PerroLoboCheco ERWAN BEGAN OTHER CAMPAIN OF BULLYING AGAINT THE ADMINISTRATOR AND MODERATOR OF THE SPANISH FORO OF CHECOSLOVAQUIAN WOLFDOG. DEMAND THAT DELETE THIS THEME. AND IF NOT DELETE ERWAN WILL DO LAW ACTIONS AGAINST TUKY AND KAIKU. WE CAN SEE THE TIPE OF PERSON THAT IS THIS LOVER OF ANIMALS WHEN ERWAN BEGAN THIS CAMPAING OF LIES I DIDN´T BELIVED. WHY? AND THIS IS A BOOMERANG WITH THE TIME. AND THE BOOMERANG IS IN THE FACE OF ERWAN GREY. VERY VERY INTELIGENG ERWAN, I SEE. ERWAN YOU HAVE THE FUITS OF YOUR BEHAVIOR CARLOS __________________ www.lupusibericus.com Last edited by carlos2207; 02-09-2010 at 00:26.

02-09-2010, 10:54	#5
Enid Black Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Arezzo Posts: 1,142	Guys, I speak both English and Spanish, but your English is terrible and totally incomprehensible... and in all this story, the only one who will really PAY (not payment, payment is the noun, d**n it, not the verb!! Check a dictionary for heaven's sake!!), is the poor Zacharias, abandoned by his former owner 'cause he had no time (this is what can be interpretated by what you wrote, if it is not so, please rewrite!) to follow him. I followed all the history, even in Spanish forum. You two are only quarreling on line like two old ladies without anything better to do. And the dog is paying everything. Go to a judge and finish this story once for all!

03-09-2010, 00:23	#6
hanninadina Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 2,466	Hola Carlos, keep cool. I know these f.....g guys like E G very well. I have the same probs. But it is always the same, they hit in their own face. You are a nice person and you have very nice dogs. And people know that. But you see, don´t sell pups without getting the money at once. Learn from this nasty case. Christian www.wolfdogs-siouxtala.de

05-09-2010, 00:10	#8
alberto_cepedano Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Villadangos del Páramo - LEÓN Posts: 20	erwan. yours is amazing, so much love for Zachary and now you've given. Where is your love for this dog? do not keep playing with people with so many lies.