Co-ownership

Mikael · 02-12-2010, 22:06

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Originally Posted by Vaiva

In my opinion the more "sure" thing is to give a female, let's say, for free to a person B, who will take good care of her (shows, health checks divided by A and B), but all her litters will be under kennel A's name with males, chosen by kennel.

This is the one we use in Swedish, but the dog is yours by law after two litters.

We had one dog like this from a good breeder = Person, we even let her take tree litters on are female for free, as litter nr two was only two puppies. But now the dog is my sisters... And we will not breed her again, even if she is very good.

But this I think only works whit 100% trust.

BTW, in Sweden you can only have 5 litter / female by are kennel club, this to stop puppy mills whit pure breed dogs.

Very best regards / Mikael

Vaiva · 02-12-2010, 22:25

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Originally Posted by Mikael

BTW, in Sweden you can only have 5 litter / female by are kennel club, this to stop puppy mills whit pure breed dogs.

Very best regards / Mikael

This one seems good

you mean you can not have more than 5 litters a year either?

Mikael · 02-12-2010, 22:41

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Originally Posted by Vaiva

you mean you can not have more than 5 litters a year either?

No, but if you have more than two litters a year / kennel you must pay tax

5 litters / female / liftime is so that no female is to be ower used

Very best regards / Mikael

Gypsy Wolf · 08-12-2010, 23:41

I am a big fan of co-ownership. 2 of my 4 dogs are co-owned and I currently co-own 4 other dogs - 3 of which I have bred myself. I keep at least 1 pup (my pick) from each litter I've produced on a co-ownership to be able to utilize the genetics of the dog in the future, if so desired.
The dog is, for all intents and purposes, the pet/companion of the co-owner - they cover any/all of the expenses of the dog. The idea is to place a really high-quality dog in a great home that will show/work the dog, but may not have the money upfront for such a large purchase. Plus, I may want a pup back from that particular dog.
It is also a great way to be able to control your kennel name and genetics. Breedings are not allowed without my consent, though if/when I elect to breed that particular dog, the mate is my choice and I will be responsible for any expenses involved in the breeding. I will also take back the bitch to whelp the litter if the co-owner does not want to whelp the litter.
Each contract is unique. In some contracts, I will sign over total ownership after the litter, others I only want pick pup, others specify that the co-ownerhsip is permanent for the life of the dog. Overall, I have been very pleased with co-owning dogs. I have been very selective as to who I co-own with, and my co-owners generally become friends - we have the dog's best interests at heart, regardless of whose home the dog is in.
Of course, a contract is only as good as how well it can be enforced, and I have heard some horror stories - dogs sold on a limited registration co-ownership that "accidentally" got bred... I know I co-owned a bitch a few years ago that had to be spayed emergently from a severe case of "closed" Pyometra and I felt terrible, though of course my co-owner friend was very understanding - some things just happen.
I would think it would be much more difficult to co-own in Europe if the dogs in question lived in other countries - legal issues and kennel clubs with differing laws would make a red tape mess. Here, at least, it is easier to navigate the law and appeal to AKC to mediate problems.
There are also a lot of big-name breeders (at least in German Shepherd Dogs) that "farm out" brood bitches on co-owns and breed them, so that the dogs live in good homes and the pups are raised in a better environment than just a kennel. And the "breeder" does very little except rake in their percentage...

08-12-2010, 23:41	#4
Gypsy Wolf Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Florida & Minnesota U.S. Posts: 252	I am a big fan of co-ownership. 2 of my 4 dogs are co-owned and I currently co-own 4 other dogs - 3 of which I have bred myself. I keep at least 1 pup (my pick) from each litter I've produced on a co-ownership to be able to utilize the genetics of the dog in the future, if so desired. The dog is, for all intents and purposes, the pet/companion of the co-owner - they cover any/all of the expenses of the dog. The idea is to place a really high-quality dog in a great home that will show/work the dog, but may not have the money upfront for such a large purchase. Plus, I may want a pup back from that particular dog. It is also a great way to be able to control your kennel name and genetics. Breedings are not allowed without my consent, though if/when I elect to breed that particular dog, the mate is my choice and I will be responsible for any expenses involved in the breeding. I will also take back the bitch to whelp the litter if the co-owner does not want to whelp the litter. Each contract is unique. In some contracts, I will sign over total ownership after the litter, others I only want pick pup, others specify that the co-ownerhsip is permanent for the life of the dog. Overall, I have been very pleased with co-owning dogs. I have been very selective as to who I co-own with, and my co-owners generally become friends - we have the dog's best interests at heart, regardless of whose home the dog is in. Of course, a contract is only as good as how well it can be enforced, and I have heard some horror stories - dogs sold on a limited registration co-ownership that "accidentally" got bred... I know I co-owned a bitch a few years ago that had to be spayed emergently from a severe case of "closed" Pyometra and I felt terrible, though of course my co-owner friend was very understanding - some things just happen. I would think it would be much more difficult to co-own in Europe if the dogs in question lived in other countries - legal issues and kennel clubs with differing laws would make a red tape mess. Here, at least, it is easier to navigate the law and appeal to AKC to mediate problems. There are also a lot of big-name breeders (at least in German Shepherd Dogs) that "farm out" brood bitches on co-owns and breed them, so that the dogs live in good homes and the pups are raised in a better environment than just a kennel. And the "breeder" does very little except rake in their percentage...