Hungarian HD/ED results

[Mikael]

I wonder how many Hungarian wolfdogs' HD/ED results will remain in the database after the modification...

Non or at least the % of A/A result will bee very much less

Best regards / M

[jasmine]

Egészséges Kutyákért Közhasznú Alapítvány
Független Diszplázia Bizottsága
FDB
Az FDB által regisztrált kutyák 1991-2008 A FDB 2008 augusztus 2-tól működését felfüggeszti és előre meg nem határozható ideig szünetelteti.
Indokolás:
A MEOE az FDB 17 éves működése alatt kiadott többezer FDB számot törölte az adatbázisából, illetve azokat HD:0 és HD:1 jelölésekké "konvertálta" át, mely módosítás lehetetlenné teszi a független szakbizottságunk által kiadott minősítések megkülönböztetését minden más úton szerzett diszplázia-eredménytől.
Tenyészadat-gyűjtést a hatályban levő állattenyésztési törvény alapján csak elismert tenyésztő szervezetek végezhetnek, illetve adhatnak rá megbízást. Az FDB vonatkozásában a törvény nem a Rtg.-felvételek bírálatát, hanem az internetes eredménylistánk vezetését tiltja a nem elismert MEOE származási lapjaival rendelkező kutyákról. A diszplázia minősítésekkel - beleértve az FDB-számokkal - való visszaélések visszaszorításában viszont pontosan az eredménylista nyilvánosságának lenne jelentősége.
Az FDB folytatná 17 éves jószolgálati munkáját amennyiben a tenyésztők igazodnak a jogszabályokhoz, vagy ha a jogszabályok módosulnak a tenyésztőkhöz, azaz törvényes lehetőség nyílna diszplázia-minősítések gyűjtésére és közzétételére, továbbá, ha azzal egyidejűleg a származási lapokon az FDB minősítések megkülönböztetők lennének az egyéni állatorvosi diszplázia igazolásoktól, illetve, ha a tenyésztőtársadalom igényt tartana állatorvosi bizottságunk országban egyedülálló és kiemelkedő 17 éves szakmai tapasztalatára, elfogulatlanságára, hitelességére.



Before you wrote something, would better to look after it . Translate the text. Shortly: FDB is not exist from 02.08.2008!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And I'm just wondering how could happen that a private site and their admins want to tell me what kind of rules shell I follow??? I'm just wondering how could this person question about the authentic of the official results???? Results what are accepted our klub, our kennelklub and FCI????????


It is not hurra Mikael....it is shame!!!!!


But as it a private site and lack of objectivity, you could do what you want ! But if you don't mind, as I breed in Hungary , I must follow the hungarian rules....and not yours.




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[Mikael]

Originally Posted by jasmine

It is not hurra Mikael....it is shame!!!!!

But as it a private site and lack of objectivity, you could do what you want ! But if you don't mind, as I breed in Hungary , I must follow the hungarian rules....and not yours.

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Sorry, but I only trust Official results ! Not results from private veterinarians...

Do you x-ray all your dogs at the same veterinarian ?
If yes... Way ? Is he good or are the result good ???

Example...

If he give you A/A. You will come back whit your next dog and he will make money... He give you A/A again and you will come back whit ALL your dogs + You recommend him to ALL your puppy buyer and friends... And he will make allot of money.

Do you see the problem and my point ???

Best regards / Mikael

[jasmine]

I don't understand you ? Why do you think that these results are not official. In Hungary some vets have right to make xrays and give certifiations (official). These results are accepted by MEOE (hungarian kennelklub) ,other klubs in all over the world and FCI of course.
No worth to talking about it anymore!

[Mikael]

Originally Posted by jasmine

In Hungary some vets have right to make xrays and give certifiations (official).

That is the problem !!!

And to me that is not a official result.

Way ???

1, You might know him or he is a good friend

2, The quality of there education can vary allot (bad or old...)

3, It is more easy to make a false papers, than if the kennel club do the evaluation of the x-ray and put up the result in there database.

4, Or one can just pay for a good result ( Not all contry´s)

Best regards / Mikael

[Woockie]

Originally Posted by Mikael

That is the problem !!!
And to me that is not a official result.

Sorry but who are you? Of course in relation of FCI for example.

Way ???
1, You might know him or he is a good friend
2, The quality of there education can vary allot (bad or old...)
3, It is more easy to make a false papers, than if the kennel club do the evaluation of the x-ray and put up the result in there database.
4, Or one can just pay for a good result ( Not all contry´s)

Don't make me laugh. With that statement you are saying that all the FCI's and the MEOE's and other clubs operatives are dumb for their job, because they don't know about those points you mentioned. Or else they (all clubs and FCI's etc) are all in good relation to those vets. With all of them. You really think that a vet will pawn his reputation for a few Euros and will fake the tests? Lot's of them are working by the MKOE too. You really think that they will hazard that?
Today I've talking about that with a few people. I've heared that a breeder sent fake result -there's no evidence, because afaik the admin doesn't want to give us those papers to let us to take the official steps to stop that-, but what you "like" is not against one breeder but all of the hungarians. You really think this is the one and only one solution to that problem? You want to penalize all of them because of foggy suspicions? What's with those test which will have the same result which before? Will you pay them?
It's just mud-slinging...

Woockie
http://www.wolfdog.hu/

[jmvdwiel]

at least the hungarian kennelclub thinks this is OK, because al the HD results are also on the pedigree so this is the way they do it in hungary.

Everybody is licensed to think otherwise, but a single breeder cannot change the policy of a kennelclub.