DM Testresults

[michaelundinaeichhorn]

Hi Margo,

maybe Hanka hasn't seen one, but I can show you a dog ( Crying Wolf Falco ) with clearly diagnosed DM not far from our place.
We had him at our place for 2 weeks and believe me, it was not nice seeing him wobbling through our garden.
And he's not the only one.

Michael

[z Peronówki]

Originally Posted by michaelundinaeichhorn

maybe Hanka hasn't seen one, but I can show you a dog ( Crying Wolf Falco ) with clearly diagnosed DM not far from our place.

Yes, I know about him. I also know that Forrest has the same problems. And it it known that DM is a problem exactly in this line... and there is a MUST to make a selection there... It apply also to the second line with known problems.

But the reason of my question was something different: how many OTHER dogs with DM did you saw? Which were not OLD but had problems with movement? I know the goosips spread about two more dogs fromt he origin countries but I heard also that for 100% they are not DM/DM....

[Hanka]

I know it is repeating, but maybe somebody had not seen it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQfGaPYLi2o

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWBgf1qcB_4

But here is thread about DM, Margo. If you want speak about wolfdogs with some other problems in movement, you can open new thread.

[z Peronówki]

Originally Posted by Hanka

But here is thread about DM, Margo. If you want speak about wolfdogs with some other problems in movement, you can open new thread.

No, I'm talking about DM - you was breeding comittee member in Czech Republic. Could you list us dogs in CZ which show DM symtoms like the dog showed on the video (let say which you saw in the last 10 years)... I really do not ask for DM/DM-carriers dogs but for the dogs which are really ILL...

I hope it is not a top secret information which some people try to hide - especially in the case where official information is so important....

I really want to know how spread in the problem and how many dogs are afflicted by DM...

[FreierFranke]

Hello,

it is very secure we need a second, if not several factors including the onset of DM. How many of the dogs DM/DM where ill? In witch age the dogs where ill? For what % from the dogs we speak? We know to less in the moment!
According the university Bern in Switzerland where dogs ill from the race Hovawart the are DM/DM and DM/N. Other dogs from the Hovawart where not ill and they are DM/DM.

We make a Witch-Hunting!
Right now it like the plague during the Middle Ages is based on the genetic decline in the breed.

What if the medical-scientists decode the other 200-400 diseases? What we then made?

We need to observe and test, but it is too early, the results may have influence in the breed.
Look in this thread: Dogs who are N/N where celebration, dogs with DM/N where only ok, and dogs where DM/DM: Oh my Lord, the poor dogs.

This is not god for the breed, this is the beginning from the end!

By the way: All my dogs are testet!


This is my private opinion. It is difficult to explain this to me, my english is not good.

Greetings
Markus

[Backman]

More from Finland:

Forever Wolf Arctic Storm
Degenerative Myelopathy - PCR
Result: Genotype: N/DM