Russian Army Wolfdog Projekt

Morian · 22-05-2011, 22:59

ahhaha advertising of non-fci mixes on wd! must i ban you?

(kidding too)

the only interesting thing said is about motivation of dogs and wolfdogs, she told that it differs very much, how dogs make tricks for food etc. 90% is about how cool they are. by the way, it was iterview with olga druzhinina, one of the main persons in this experiment. she started to tell about 30 years

i spoke with her many times on some forums and even by skype. every time after my question "why do you want to create new breed if it already exists?" she used to start long and boring discussions about csv - not able to work, shy etc. but every time we had to finish the discussion with another question - have you ever seen one?

i don't want to compare csv and volkosob (as minimum because i didn't have it), but imagine - how many dogs are on their site? for so long time (and so much money and attention) it's not too optimistic number. how many of them passed even most easy exams? 2 or 3 maybe. how strong inbreeding is - did you see information about any health test on their site? i didn't. only one paper where they compared biochemical indices of dogs and hybrids (and found out that their dogs are not healthy). it's all looks like a bad joke, nothing more. so much ado about nothing.

tupacs2legs · 23-05-2011, 01:55

ahh! thankyou..only saturday my friend and i (tassle) were watching a you tube clip about this but it was in russian! grrr!

i couldnt understand why they were trying to breed what already exists

does anyone know of the experiment of crossing siberian huskys and jackals for use as 'sniffer dogs'? is this project still ongoing? (seemed an odd idea to me)

Priska182 · 23-05-2011, 03:48

Thank you Mikael and Morian, it's really an interesting thread. It's amazing how wolf hybridation can sugest that much interest... Personally I'n really glad with my pure breed dog

Nebulosa · 23-05-2011, 21:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by tupacs2legs

does anyone know of the experiment of crossing siberian huskys and jackals for use as 'sniffer dogs'? is this project still ongoing? (seemed an odd idea to me)

Sulimov dogs, I read somewhere that now they are Lufthansa's dog, someone know more about it?

Silvester · 24-05-2011, 19:51

I found this video on youtube about Sulimov dogs - have a look:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6Y7pBN7toE

Sulimov was trying to create best sniffing dog for security work on Russian airports , he was working for Aeroflot. I don´t know whether Lufthansa here in Germany are using such dogs too - but I´ve never heard of this.

Best greetings , Uli alias Silvester

Morian · 24-05-2011, 20:04

ah! i know this, but at us we call this god "shalaika"

from "shakal" (jackal) ana laika.

Silvester · 25-05-2011, 09:16

Hey Morian , great nickname - "shalaika" .... I like it.

But what about telling them better "shalalaika" - sounds more melodically, right ?

(And it has a little more affinity to Russian folklore...!)

Ok, and how we´re going to call our race now ? May be "wosheps" ( from wolf and shepherd dog ) would be a fine nickname ??

Or better " Shepwos" ?

Best greetings , Uli alias Silvester

Mikael · 25-05-2011, 11:42

NICE VIDEO Uli

Best regards / Mikael

draggar · 23-05-2011, 12:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by Morian

90% is about how cool they are.

This is probably why they're doing it. Coolness = more attention = more money.

Morian · 23-05-2011, 12:53

yes, exactly

22-05-2011, 22:59	#1
Morian Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: USSR Posts: 2,047	ahhaha advertising of non-fci mixes on wd! must i ban you? (kidding too) the only interesting thing said is about motivation of dogs and wolfdogs, she told that it differs very much, how dogs make tricks for food etc. 90% is about how cool they are. by the way, it was iterview with olga druzhinina, one of the main persons in this experiment. she started to tell about 30 years i spoke with her many times on some forums and even by skype. every time after my question "why do you want to create new breed if it already exists?" she used to start long and boring discussions about csv - not able to work, shy etc. but every time we had to finish the discussion with another question - have you ever seen one? i don't want to compare csv and volkosob (as minimum because i didn't have it), but imagine - how many dogs are on their site? for so long time (and so much money and attention) it's not too optimistic number. how many of them passed even most easy exams? 2 or 3 maybe. how strong inbreeding is - did you see information about any health test on their site? i didn't. only one paper where they compared biochemical indices of dogs and hybrids (and found out that their dogs are not healthy). it's all looks like a bad joke, nothing more. so much ado about nothing. __________________

23-05-2011, 03:48	#3
Priska182 Canadian Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Montréal Posts: 423	Thank you Mikael and Morian, it's really an interesting thread. It's amazing how wolf hybridation can sugest that much interest... Personally I'n really glad with my pure breed dog __________________ Stéphanie www.inugami.ca

24-05-2011, 20:04	#6
Morian Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: USSR Posts: 2,047	ah! i know this, but at us we call this god "shalaika" from "shakal" (jackal) ana laika. __________________

25-05-2011, 09:16	#7
Silvester Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Germany Posts: 369	Hey Morian , great nickname - "shalaika" .... I like it. But what about telling them better "shalalaika" - sounds more melodically, right ? (And it has a little more affinity to Russian folklore...!) Ok, and how we´re going to call our race now ? May be "wosheps" ( from wolf and shepherd dog ) would be a fine nickname ?? Or better " Shepwos" ? Best greetings , Uli alias Silvester Last edited by Silvester; 25-05-2011 at 09:19.

25-05-2011, 11:42	#8
Mikael Scandinavian Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Stockholm Posts: 1,089	NICE VIDEO Uli Best regards / Mikael __________________ _________________________________________________ Hronec, Rasty, Zilja Kennel, Wolfdog of Sweden* http://kennelwolfdogofsweden.vpsite.se/Home.html http://www.facebook.com/pages/Wolfdo...53067971392916

23-05-2011, 01:55	#2
tupacs2legs rookie Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: london Posts: 320	ahh! thankyou..only saturday my friend and i (tassle) were watching a you tube clip about this but it was in russian! grrr! i couldnt understand why they were trying to breed what already exists does anyone know of the experiment of crossing siberian huskys and jackals for use as 'sniffer dogs'? is this project still ongoing? (seemed an odd idea to me)

23-05-2011, 12:53	#10
Morian Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: USSR Posts: 2,047	yes, exactly __________________