Finding CzW Breeders in PORTUGAL or SPAIN

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Originally Posted by Rafa

But about the character, there're more possibilities to a breeder with a few dogs to socialize a puppy than another with a lot of them, but sometimes the second one is better person than the first and take more care about it.

Sure - sometimes "breeders" which have even only one puppy have no idea how to care for the puppies so a dog from their kennel will be worser that dog from a kennel with few dogs...

Originally Posted by Rafa

Remember that even if the puppy is well socialize, its character is individual and you only can change it a little.

The future owner have huge influence - take a look on the article written by Dharkwolf (http://www.wolfdog.org/eng/articles/1357.html) - there is for example huge difference between dogs from Czech kennels which live in CZ and "West Europe". In the most cases the dogs living in CZ have stable character and their brothers and sisters living in other countries are shy. Most CzW owners in CZ visit training ground already with young puppies. They train to pass the bonitation. Many people in West Europe think they have Wolves - and they do not socialize the dogs what causes they are very shy...

So the owner has a lot to say about the future character of the dog. Even it he get great dog he cas still many things wrong....

Sure, you right and every dog has its individual character and in every litter you can see puppies which are more or less self-confident. But a good breeder and good mother have HUGE influence on the future character of the puppy. And it is very important expecially by Czechoslovakian Wolfdogs. I read great interview with Christian Starosciak - dog trainer working with very agressive dogs in the animal shelter near Paris. And his words are very much true:
"The most cases where the dog bite a men are not caused that the dog was abused by the owner or wrong treated. (..) For about 90% of such cases is responsible the mother or the breeder of the puppy."
It is really easy - the puppies learn from their mother. If she will behave shy/agressive also they will learn such behavior. And there are many proofs for it. But even more important is the breeder - if the puppy is kept in kennel without proper socialization you can be already SURE that the puppy will be shy (or will have much worser character in the future than puppies from good kennels). Sure the owner can work with such dog and make it better but still...

What is the difference? We had the possibility to compare two puppies - one from good kennel, second was a puppy kept without socialization. The first was already from beginning brave and open towards people, played a lot, was not scared. Second puppy was for ONE week sitting unter the bed, too much affraid to leave the room.... Very much affraid of the new owners... and because of it bahaving agressive...

Another example - I saw the puppies from Mirkas kennel (born at home, having a lot contact with people) and even after some of them were sold to the "West Europe" the dogs are still normal... But I also know a dog which one breeder from Czech Republic buyed abroad to import "new blood" - the woman knows CzW very well, is experienced breeder and also a dog trainer but she was not ABLE to "repair" the character of this puppy (the dog was buyed in a kennel where CzW live in bigger pack like real wolves) - the missing socialization destoyed the character of the puppy simply too much...

Originally Posted by Rafa

You are going to buy a puppy 3 months old, and it will not the best of the litter.

Why not? Sorry but it is surprising for me. It means "first buyer get better dog"? Someone who pays earlier gets the chance too choose first? Only money counts?
Sorry, but I'm used the the system of reservations - better owner (more interested in this breed) gets better chances. Or "first reservation, first choice". Sorry but I can't imagine to sell puppy with the worstes character in the litter to someone how writes that he is interested in training; and to sell less promising puppy to a person interested in showing the dog... only because the person will pick up the puppy as last one...
I buyed three dogs in Czech Republic and everytime I had the chance to choose. For example with Bolton I had the first choice - I was looking for huge puppy with stable character. The breeder helped me to choose the right puppy for me and it was not important if I will fast enough to be first person which picked up the puppy - Bolton was simply WAITING for me... And with the females was the same - the money were not the most important thing and I get what I expected. And I heard already about people which picked up the puppy much later but choosed as first - there are more people on this forum which had such chance...
Sure for an unknow person it can be hard because it is always a little bit risky for the breeder to keep the puppy so long but it is really no problem to choose the best puppy in the liter and pick up it later... Just find honest breeder...

Originally Posted by Rafa

Try to avoid it asking for pictures of the puppies, time of born, weigh,.. and chose one as soon as you can.

It depends what you want to do with your puppy - if it shoule be just a family mamber then only character is important. If you want to have show quality dog the detailed pictures will be very important - with 5 weeks you will be already able to say something about the future look of the puppy. You can say a lot about the angulation, about the colour of the eyes, lenght of the ears and much more. You will be able to see the mask. Good breeder which spend a lot time with the puppy will be able to tell you more about the character of each puppy - it is very important for the future because beginners should NEVER buy the "alpha" puppy because it means always (more) problems for them...
Nothing is sure but you will be able to choose better puppy from the litter and in many cases it is already possible to see if a puppy have no chance to be "Champion" in the future... And also to choose the best character...

Originally Posted by Rafa

The total amount will be more or less the same if you buy it in France or in Czech (or wherever you want), it is your decision.

That's right - the puppies in the East Europe seem to be cheaper but if we count everything it comes out the end price will be the same. So the most important thing will be the character of the parents (passed exams), their quality, the HD-results and the pedigree (if it should be puppy for breeding).

Originally Posted by Rafa

DON'T BE IN A HURRY, remember that you chose a future member of your family.

Yeah..that's true.... Sometimes it is companion for more that 10 years so think twice before you buy a CzW...