Presentation Y'Byron Lupus Ibericus and web page

fernando · 03-08-2011, 11:44

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Originally Posted by Vaiva

I might look unpolite again, but... maybe we all should create a separate topic for every dog of ours?

Our dogs are of course special - everyone is most special for his owner...

Perhaps it should not be in this forum, but in witch? if the administrator thinks this thread should not be in here, please move it.

I don't unterstand. I never said that my dog is more special than others. What's the problem. ¿the videos or the behavior question?

Vaiva · 03-08-2011, 11:49

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Originally Posted by fernando

Perhaps it should not be in this forum, but in witch? if the administrator thinks this thread should not be in here, please move it.

I don't unterstand. I never said that my dog is more special than others. What's the problem. ¿the videos or the behavior question?

No problems at all. Just people usually create topics like "Funny photos", or "Videos with CsW", or topics, where everyone can speak about the problems they face growing a wolfdog puppy, or a topic about some health problem - usually not the topic about one dog

Unless this dog is really important for the breed, has been a great stud or achieved some amazing training results, etc.

Speaking about the behaviour question, you just mentioned it is a step back - but did not mention what really happends: is your dog afraid of other people? Or is he getting less obedient? Or smth else?

fernando · 03-08-2011, 12:15

I agree. Thanks Vaiva. I'll remember for the next. I used the same thread to not open several.

About the problem. Large vehicles that make a lot of noise affect much to him. We are working every two days and seems that is improving. In news environments, that does not know becomes more sensitive in general. It's something that happened when he was a puppy, and that soluciont working. But whats surprises me is now this step-back in both problen at once and suddenly. I want to now if the other dogs of this breed have the same experience and his impact in the future. Does it only occur during adolescence? We will continue to working with him on everything that happens in the future but this info would be very useful.

Thanks again!!!

Vaiva · 03-08-2011, 12:31

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Originally Posted by fernando

About the problem. Large vehicles that make a lot of noise affect much to him. We are working every two days and seems that is improving. In news environments, that does not know becomes more sensitive in general. It's something that happened when he was a puppy, and that soluciont working. But whats surprises me is now this step-back in both problen at once and suddenly. I want to now if the other dogs of this breed have the same experience and his impact in the future. Does it only occur during adolescence? We will continue to working with him on everything that happens in the future but this info would be very useful.

Thanks again!!!

I am not a trainer, nor I have a big experience with dogs, but it allways seems to me, that the shyness or fear of something appears when the dog does not have a good enought connection with his owner. If a dog totally trusts the owner - the alpha of the wolves pack - he knows that nobody and nothing will harm them. The problem is - wolfdogs, different from many other breeds, do not have a "natural respect" for people, you have to earn it. Having in mind, that his age is "teenage" now and he might have a value crisis...

My dog had different problem when she was at about same age as your dog is now - she lost the interest in people, only wanted to play with dogs. Once she tried to ignore me and just run around in a playfull manier, so when I finally cought her I was soooooo angry

So I decided it is my time to become her only one - for month or two she had no games with other dogs, only with me, long walks on leash, some training, lots of socialisation. And it helped. Maybe your dog is also now in doubt if you are worth his trust?

But it is not a recomendation or what, just my opinion and experience.

fernando · 05-08-2011, 09:56

Well, i don't replied to your comment as found documentation specifies about this problem. The reference is Joël Dehasse, 1994. Desarrollo sensorial, emocional y social del perro joven (in spanish). publish in The bulletin foro veterinary clinical ethology, vol 2, nº 1-2, pp 6,29, 1994 (Bruselas).

His name in psicology is "pre-puberty sensibility". This problem affect to all breeds, It have a genetic factor so it may affect some breeds more than others and some families more than others.

Before puberty, our dogs are a sensitive period, like puppies over 5 weeks. In this period they can recover old fears or emerge new. We can't prevent this period. Only with early neutering (shown by the experiments) So it means a hormonal source.

Previous work soften the traumas caused at this time. The work of socialization should be repeated during. And most importantly, the sensitivty is temporary, but not the traumas. We must work to eliminate them.

Thanks Vaiva for your opinions.

André · 05-08-2011, 11:18

Hi Fernando, I loved your videos, especially the pool video

There are abandoned and even more mistreated dogs... so it's always nice to see the love for dogs, moreover in this difficult breed. This is an healthy enthusiasm, don't you think Vaiva?

Maybe create a separate section for dog presentations and move mine and fernando's topic.

About the problem. I have the opposite problem - too much confidence. She is 7 months and never had fear of anything.
Try to reward with food and a calm stroke when he doesn't show fear. Never value fear, ignore it. It's also important that you react as nothing happened. When there's some strong noise I go out of the house in the direction of the noise and reward my dog if she comes too. She sees if I remain like all is normal then there's no reason for fear.

03-08-2011, 12:15	#3
fernando Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Madrid Posts: 16	I agree. Thanks Vaiva. I'll remember for the next. I used the same thread to not open several. About the problem. Large vehicles that make a lot of noise affect much to him. We are working every two days and seems that is improving. In news environments, that does not know becomes more sensitive in general. It's something that happened when he was a puppy, and that soluciont working. But whats surprises me is now this step-back in both problen at once and suddenly. I want to now if the other dogs of this breed have the same experience and his impact in the future. Does it only occur during adolescence? We will continue to working with him on everything that happens in the future but this info would be very useful. Thanks again!!! __________________ https://sites.google.com/site/byronp...ochecoslovaco/

05-08-2011, 09:56	#5
fernando Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Madrid Posts: 16	Well, i don't replied to your comment as found documentation specifies about this problem. The reference is Joël Dehasse, 1994. Desarrollo sensorial, emocional y social del perro joven (in spanish). publish in The bulletin foro veterinary clinical ethology, vol 2, nº 1-2, pp 6,29, 1994 (Bruselas). His name in psicology is "pre-puberty sensibility". This problem affect to all breeds, It have a genetic factor so it may affect some breeds more than others and some families more than others. Before puberty, our dogs are a sensitive period, like puppies over 5 weeks. In this period they can recover old fears or emerge new. We can't prevent this period. Only with early neutering (shown by the experiments) So it means a hormonal source. Previous work soften the traumas caused at this time. The work of socialization should be repeated during. And most importantly, the sensitivty is temporary, but not the traumas. We must work to eliminate them. Thanks Vaiva for your opinions. __________________ https://sites.google.com/site/byronp...ochecoslovaco/

05-08-2011, 11:18	#6
André Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 76	Hi Fernando, I loved your videos, especially the pool video There are abandoned and even more mistreated dogs... so it's always nice to see the love for dogs, moreover in this difficult breed. This is an healthy enthusiasm, don't you think Vaiva? Maybe create a separate section for dog presentations and move mine and fernando's topic. About the problem. I have the opposite problem - too much confidence. She is 7 months and never had fear of anything. Try to reward with food and a calm stroke when he doesn't show fear. Never value fear, ignore it. It's also important that you react as nothing happened. When there's some strong noise I go out of the house in the direction of the noise and reward my dog if she comes too. She sees if I remain like all is normal then there's no reason for fear.