What is the average content of the Czech wolfdog?

Tassle · 27-09-2011, 23:28

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Originally Posted by yukidomari

Not understanding how you've interpreted my post.. I was simply saying.. your example of saying "F1= 50% wolf, 50% GSD and F2= 50% wolf/GSD and so on" is not entirely accurate because that was not how the breeding was done. As I said, there was and is backcrossing and linebreeding, and so calculations would not strictly be by simply dividing, but rather you must account for things like F2b, and linebreeding. That's all.

What do you mean by "diluting" the breed though? Do you mean in terms of the mathematical calculation of wolfblood? That number is wholly irrelevant and says nothing about the temperament or type of an individual dog.. I can assure you that no breeder makes breeding plans based on what would maintain that mathematical number.

Taking this into account - surely the calculator is to be taken with a pinch of salt as a general possibility (or should that be probability?). Due to the way genetics works, even in a closed gene pool there is no way of knowing how much of each Parent the offspring will inherit?

In theory, the dogs could be higher or lower than predicted?

yukidomari · 28-09-2011, 00:10

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Originally Posted by Tassle

Taking this into account - surely the calculator is to be taken with a pinch of salt as a general possibility (or should that be probability?). Due to the way genetics works, even in a closed gene pool there is no way of knowing how much of each Parent the offspring will inherit?

In theory, the dogs could be higher or lower than predicted?

Yes, exactly, so that's why the mathematical calculation is really not useful information, it's 'just for fun' as to the I suppose 'average' possibility assuming dogs inherit exactly half of characteristics (which we all know it doesn't).

Tassle · 28-09-2011, 10:42

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Originally Posted by yukidomari

Yes, exactly, so that's why the mathematical calculation is really not useful information, it's 'just for fun' as to the I suppose 'average' possibility assuming dogs inherit exactly half of characteristics (which we all know it doesn't).

Always nice to keep these things in perspective

tupacs2legs · 28-09-2011, 10:48

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Originally Posted by Tassle

Taking this into account - surely the calculator is to be taken with a pinch of salt as a general possibility (or should that be probability?). Due to the way genetics works, even in a closed gene pool there is no way of knowing how much of each Parent the offspring will inherit?

In theory, the dogs could be higher or lower than predicted?

exactly why i said its irrelevant

(in my first post)

happyfeet · 28-09-2011, 14:12

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Originally Posted by tupacs2legs

exactly why i said its irrelevant

(in my first post)

If it is irrelevant then why did you calculate your own dog???

loco · 28-09-2011, 15:06

I also think it is irrelevant, because i have a dog with 100 % CSW-blood

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happyfeet · 28-09-2011, 15:32

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Originally Posted by loco

I also think it is irrelevant, because i have a dog with 100 % CSW-blood

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Thanks for your comment, but this has been a wealth of information for myself everyone else who has posted, after all, this is a forum for the Czechslovakian Wolfdog, not the Czechslovakian Dog , but please correct me if I am wrong ??

tupacs2legs · 28-09-2011, 16:05

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Originally Posted by Blaidd

If it is irrelevant then why did you calculate your own dog???

Oh dear,I came across it when using the tool for something else.....and?

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Originally Posted by loco

I also think it is irrelevant, because i have a dog with 100 % CSW-blood

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indeed

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Originally Posted by Blaidd

Thanks for your comment, but this has been a wealth of information for myself everyone else who has posted, after all, this is a forum for the Czechslovakian Wolfdog, not the Czechslovakian Dog , but please correct me if I am wrong ??

Actually they are vlcak's I suggest u look up what it means and translations

What's got a bee in your bonnet? Were the answers from people that know the BREED not want u wanted to hear?

Eta .... The word vlcak....

Vlčák means all German Shepherd Dog and wolfdogs in the Czech language cs:Vlčák. Word vlčák is derived from vlk (wolf). Vlčák or Německý vlčák (German vlčák) means also German Shepherd Dog in common Czech. Correct Czech name of German Shepherd Dog is německý ovčák.

I think maybe you are putting too much on the 'wolf content' as there was a helluva lot more GSD's used

loco · 28-09-2011, 16:26

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Originally Posted by Blaidd

, not the Czechslovakian Dog , but please correct me if I am wrong ??

I wil, because i said CSW

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Czecho Slovakian Wolfdog.
And I have a CSW

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But stil, it is a dog

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happyfeet · 28-09-2011, 16:59

I thought this was a discussion forum? not a bitching forum? I find both of your attitudes rather poor at best,

2packs I see from your other posts that you seem to enjoy putting everyone you can down, I find it rather distastfull.

My question has been answered, for my research my question was relevent and the Elf link gave me a wealth of information.

loco · 28-09-2011, 17:45

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Originally Posted by Blaidd

please correct me if I am wrong ??

You said please,............................

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I did nothing more you asked for

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28-09-2011, 15:06	#6
loco Non active. Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Outside, walking the dog. Posts: 2,873	I also think it is irrelevant, because i have a dog with 100 % CSW-blood . __________________ Just treat stupid situations like a dog.....If you can't play with it or eat it....... Then just piss on it and walk away . Last edited by loco; 28-09-2011 at 15:08.

28-09-2011, 16:59	#10
happyfeet Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: on a farm Posts: 78	I thought this was a discussion forum? not a bitching forum? I find both of your attitudes rather poor at best, 2packs I see from your other posts that you seem to enjoy putting everyone you can down, I find it rather distastfull. My question has been answered, for my research my question was relevent and the Elf link gave me a wealth of information.