Demoniak de la Louve Blanche

[wolfin]

Originally Posted by koomak

Because you are a friend of Margo and Daiva! ! They told me you wanted a baby for DNA testing! ! Sarka why? Why? You do not like animals. .
3rd
also all italiy know that you phone Suski has to have the same blood as Doz last week!!!

Whats happened Sarka, why you are a liar , you are afraid ?

sory but you my dear are now liar- I know Sarka like a good breeder but we not are a friends.
I think she very like animals, but not love a lie and falshing
p.s. I too give a permision for publishing this texts about your conspiracy theory

I go to buy a popcorn

[SARKA]

Sophie, is there any problem having the DNA of descendants of Demoniak, Doz and Vendetta x Mephisto? Why should I be afraid?

[koomak]

Ok .. Because you block my words on this forum and can t speack Sophie post for me ... I have some mails from
Sarka who want from my kennel our blood line ( Volos / Dracula and demoniak ) she explain that it was a co owning with some friends ... After i was close to Sophie when she propose to buy 2 puppies from us to dog show and breeding ... Strange file not ?? For bad blood line famous kennel write to us ... Of course our puppies are not use in bad intentions and for that I explain to Sophie that she can dream all the nigth .. Philippot or anybody else can dream on ... Regards lamb of this forum ... Frank capiez ( if some need copy of mails I receive I can give ) money money money ..

[hekate]

Message from Franck, because he steal can't post

Waouuuu so much Bad words in this topic ...really you have a real big problem ... For information in France we have an exam to have the pedigree and breed with our dogs ..and the juge accept or not only if the dog is in the standard ...if for you have a wolfish type is not the standard shame on you because it s the standard ... Nothing else are in my blood line than what is wrote on pedigree ... Sorry if you don t have same result with your marriage .... Margo never use same blood and never crying wolf the most wolfish dog in Europe with passo del lupo ...after it s your choie and don t blâme if in few tzars your smaller smaller dog arrive ... Use allways sale Male Like eligo don t give a good example for you Margo who want give best chance to our breed ... Money money money ... Perhaps you can cross him with poodle ... I can give you some French kennel adress ... ) best regards drama forum ... For your information if few people like to be manipulate like lamb in this marketing PERON ....not me ... !!!" God save this queen " but not me !!! Best of the best for you ... Frank capiez ... (big honor to be so important in few moment in tchecoslovaquian wolfdog world )

[wolfin]

Originally Posted by hekate

Message from Franck

gosh this make my day )))))) zero info from genetic, linebreed and breed hystory.

[martiou07]

*In France, it is exact that we have the confirmation.
*Only this confirmation is relatively easily made.
*It is not at all a quality security at least in this race.

It is of no use to speak about the confirmation or still about the championship. It is moreover very hypocritical, I am sure not to be the only Frenchman to have heard(understood) some comments of judges on the edges of the rings of exhibition....

To return to the subject there, yes Demoniak is a champion of France, it is I am sure, and me includes him(it) a very big pride for its owner, but for other judges, these atypical dogs born in his breeding are far from being a representative of the race....

Now we can speak for a long time about all this here, regrettably it will arrange nothing....

The only thing which reassures me, it is the experience which I have of the life, sooner or later the truth will come out .....

[michaelundinaeichhorn]

The funny thing is that these people are constantly lying although being aware what they did and complaining about the rest of the world treating them badly.
True politicians of the worst kind...

Michael

[martiou07]

Originally Posted by michaelundinaeichhorn

The funny thing is that these people are constantly lying although being aware what they did and complaining about the rest of the world treating them badly.
True politicians of the worst kind...

Michael

I like this comparison

[z Peronówki]

Originally Posted by martiou07

I am sure not to be the only Frenchman to have heard(understood) some comments of judges on the edges of the rings of exhibition....

It is already the most well-known lie. The breeders know the dogs have fake pedigrees. The judges know that the dogs are not pure. The clubs know it. The owners know it too.

Now we wait for the official proceedings in this case.

[martiou07]

Originally Posted by z Peronówki

Now we wait for the official proceedings in this case.

me too ......

[z Peronówki]

Originally Posted by hekate

Waouuuu so much Bad words in this topic ...really you have a real big problem ...

Yes, you right. I have problem with it. As many people do. Not personally - I will not use any of those mongrels. But there is something bigger: you are destroying this breed. And soon or later the breed will get banned in France because of you and your illegal wolf crosses which can be really dangerous. I hope only that this ban will not spread in Europe.

Originally Posted by hekate

For information in France we have an exam to have the pedigree and breed with our dogs ..

Which exam... a DOG SHOW. Judgement written by a judge. I can arrange a paper for you from a judge that you are breeding sheeps....
In short: don't make me laugh.
We do not need exams but DNA tests.

Originally Posted by hekate

Nothing else are in my blood line than what is wrote on pedigree ... Sorry if you don t have same result with your marriage ....

Thanks God I do not have the same results as you... Because I do not cross my dogs with mixes. Thanks to this you can see by all of them Jolly (and not the 'neighbors' mixes as it is the case by you).

Originally Posted by hekate

Margo never use same blood and never crying wolf the most wolfish dog in Europe with passo del lupo ...

Frank, do me a favour: read finally the breed standard.... Read a bit about the breed.

Originally Posted by hekate

Money money money ..

Yes, you right. But not about me but about you. Lets see who is cheating the pedigrees. Suski who never bred any wolfish dog. Passo del Lupo who has in Italy huge competition of much better breeders than he is and because of it he had problems with selling his puppies. Now you - in France where there are already serious breeders who have pure Wolfdogs and who you are not able to defeat.
All of you would be never able to sell the amount of puppies which you produce. Especially that with your lack of knowledge about this breed you would never be able to breed any wolfish dog.

Now we can read that the people offer you double prices. In the hard time when other French breeders sell really nice puppies for normal amount of money. You see... people want to pay double prices for dogs with fake pedigrees (and they want to pay such huge amount of money because the EXACTLY know that the dogs are not pure but crosses ). It is the only reason why your business is running and other businessmen who want to make money with dogs are joining you.
But remember: one day the 'purity DNA test for Wolfdogs' will be done and all of these deceived people will come to you and ask compensations. Because you didn't sell them Czechoslovakian Wolfdogs but mongrels. And it apply to whole 'Mixes mafia' in Europe.

Originally Posted by hekate

Perhaps you can cross him with poodle ... I can give you some French kennel adress ... )

Please do it - post here the list of French kennels which you do not like and who do not like you and this what you are doing. In this way we will have a list of serious French breeders posted here....

Now serious:
I see you decided to lie till the end - it is your decision. But we know the truth, you and me know exactly that those dogs are crosses and you breed dogs with fake pedigrees. We know what is told next to the show ring, in the phone calls and in the private talks. You are mixing your dogs with mixes and it is well known. For this reason you do really not need to speak with me - you will not convince me because I know that you are a liar. But you can still try to convince some poor people on the French forum. Maybe they will still believe in your words. I will not (you know it). And it is boring (although also somehow funny) to read your assurance that the dogs have real parents written in the pedigrees.

[martiou07]

I am going to answer you their place Margo, it is the mix of bloods Flash Crying wolf and Yvanka de New Flame who gives this type of CSW

It is the explanation that I had

[z Peronówki]

Originally Posted by martiou07

I am going to answer you their place Margo, it is the mix of bloods Flash Crying wolf and Yvanka de New Flame who gives this type of CSW

It is the explanation that I had

REALLY! Only Frank, who do not have the brightest idea about the CsW lines can say something like this.... He is really thinking that all people have no knowledge about this breed. It is a pity that in France there are still young people who never saw the dogs and therefore they believe on everything what Frank is saying.

Yvanka de New Flame is 100% Czech dog. Additionally she brings the heavy type of Colt Zeper (with short legs). The children of Yvanka should look like this:


'Light version' would be like this:



And Flash and the whole F-litter was pretty short legged and in many cases very overangulated (they have pretty special type of body).

It is enough to look on the dogs of breeders who use pure Crying Wolf 'lines' - they all have pretty many problems with overagnulated and short legs. And with Czech blood you will not make it better. On the contrary.

No - with the pedigree of Demoniak you will never get wolfish dogs who has so long legs. Only children believe in fairy tales. If you breed two chickens you will never get a swan.
Last but no least: by Crying wolf you have NEVER black dogs. By Chech lines of Yvanka you will get darker brown-red colour but NEVER the colour of Fragön and Fantastik Wolweryne. Frank, maybe they get this colour from the (black?) poodle which you mentioned?