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Old 29-03-2012, 19:28   #1
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Really!?!?! One of the people came to you and asked if your dogs are pure. You told her YES!!!
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If im not mistaken she acted exactly like that also on Facebook, telling that her dogs are pure and even have DNA test, it really dont amaze me.
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Old 29-03-2012, 19:40   #2
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Im just asking - this "breeders" want to begin a new line, breding wolves and csv (or something like this)?
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Im just asking - this "breeders" want to begin a new line, breding wolves and csv (or something like this)?
No, it is not the reason. They just wanted to be the "best breeders in the world". To have "the best dogs in the world".
But because they are laymen with the missing knowledge about genetic, breeding, lines and standard they were not able to breed any good dogs.
So they saw the best possiblity to reach they goals by using mixes. Just take a look who is breeding mixes now - all possible LOOSERS. Breeders who were not able to breed any good animals. NONE of the good breeders is using/breding mices....
But because they are loosers they also screw up their experiment. Instead of using pure EU-Wolves they used all possible mongrels and AWD-crosses.
So the dogs bred by Frank are 100% Saarloos - it means "nobody know what breeds are inside"....

It is why they chated the pedigrees and not grounded new lines in register. If Frank would put those dogs in register everybody would know that he is using mixes and not pure CsW.
By cheating of the pedigrees he was able to deceive people by saying them that those dogs looks wolfish because "Crying Wolf is such wolfish line". This lie would never work by us (Poland, Slovakia, Czech Republic, aso...) because we know many CW dogs and we know how they look. But French people have not lot experiences with Crying wolf dogs - they saw few of them; usually the Saarloos alike lines bred by Edith. So they believed in it...
So at least in France and Finland the cheatings worked as the "breeders" planned...
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Im just asking - this "breeders" want to begin a new line, breding wolves and csv (or something like this)?
if they begin- why falshing a documents? now in pedigree this animals are simply dogs with a crying wolfs blood, heavy dogs blood and not moore- if see a pedigree not found any wolfish dog from what they can have this anatomy who have now.
when begin new line people make a breed book and begin from zero, without falsh pedigree with others dogs names.
this is true? I think yes
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if they begin- why falshing a documents? now in pedigree this animals are simply dogs with a crying wolfs blood, heavy dogs blood and not moore- if see a pedigree not found any wolfish dog from what they can have this anatomy who have now.
when begin new line people make a breed book and begin from zero, without falsh pedigree with others dogs names.
this is true? I think yes
That's a really good logical point.. if you were going about trying to make a new line, then don't use fake pedigrees.. use real ones just like PdL's mixes.. then people reading the pedigree of your dog, who they might want to use for breeding, have the right information on health and other information...

A fake pedigree is more than fake purebred status, it's fake ancestry and all genetic, health, and temperament background.. completely useless to any serious breeder. Worse than having 'no pedigree'.
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