Hungarian kennel club defunct?

Norky · 03/05/12, 15:51

Considering the current situation that our member in Hungary, MEOE, is facing, the FCI members and the FCI General Committee wish to reiterate their full support to our very long-standing member that has been sharing our wonderful existence since 1933. Talks and negotiations will take place with the Hungarian political authorities to envisage the future but we want to insist to the world dog community that MEOE can count with our unconditioned support and friendship.
H.W. Müller
FCI President

GalomyOak · 03/05/12, 22:06

I think I understand better now. Thanks!

It's such a different system for me to understand. Most "smaller" kennel clubs (local or breed clubs), as well as our parent organization, AKC, are private organizations. But they are also federal/state recognized organizations also. Most do not pay taxes - they are considered educational non-profit groups.

Rona · 04/05/12, 06:59

Should the present Hungarian KC reacted to vlcak community pledges to sort out the doubts connected with the appearance of "pink CSVs" descendng from CW lines, I'd be motivated to offer my support now.

CSV owners kept asking the Hungarian KC to fulfil the FCI statutory obligations and conduct enquiry, but unfortunately, as far as I know, recieved no answer and no action was taken.
Seems FCI regulations did not matter much to the present Hungarian KC anyway, so why should we be bothered?

Norky · 04/05/12, 10:00

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Originally Posted by Rona

Should the present Hungarian KC reacted to vlcak community pledges to sort out the doubts connected with the appearance of "pink CSVs" descendng from CW lines, I'd be motivated to offer my support now.

CSV owners kept asking the Hungarian KC to fulfil the FCI statutory obligations and conduct enquiry, but unfortunately, as far as I know, recieved no answer and no action was taken.
Seems FCI regulations did not matter much to the present Hungarian KC anyway, so why should we be bothered?

This is a ""very fair"" comment ....

I am a Hungarian ....many letters asking for this site admin to tell me what I can do to clarify the origin of my dogs ...but I did not receive a response.

Now is not the case ....but catch up to save the Hungarian Kennel club.

But we do not need your "help" ...

Rona · 04/05/12, 11:07

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Originally Posted by Norky

This is a ""very fair"" comment ....
I am a Hungarian ....many letters asking for this site admin to tell me what I can do to clarify the origin of my dogs ...but I did not receive a response.

Should your Kennel Club act reasonably, appropriatly and FAIRLY, also towards owners and breeders from other countries, followed the rules and mission the FCI, you'd probably have no reason to ask for any clarifications. It was the Hungarian Kennel Club in the first place, not WD Admin, that should have done something about the doubtful CSV cases from CW kennel.

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Originally Posted by Norky

But we do not need your "help" ...

Good to hear, because I've learned my lesson from having supported Winder's "Breed Club" that turned out to be a cover for mix-breeding in the UK. Now I will never formally support any case of which I'm not 100% sure is honest.

Norky · 04/05/12, 11:31

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Originally Posted by Rona

Should your Kennel Club act reasonably, appropriatly and FAIRLY, also towards owners and breeders from other countries, followed the rules and mission the FCI, you'd probably have no reason to ask for any clarifications. It was the Hungarian Kennel Club in the first place, not WD Admin, that should have done something about the doubtful CSV cases from CW kennel.

Good to hear, because I've learned my lesson from having supported Winder's "Breed Club" that turned out to be a cover for mix-breeding in the UK. Now I will never formally support any case of which I'm not 100% sure is honest.

please specify:

Just you think doubt about the origin of the Hungarian dogs.

However, I wanted to prove the origin of my dogs.
But no answer .... as always.

In this respect: it was my dogs have formal screening and FCI pedigree...so...
You have no right mix had to call them.

Repeating: we are not asking you for help.

Rona · 05/05/12, 13:37

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Originally Posted by Norky

Just you think doubt about the origin of the Hungarian dogs.

No, not JUST me. There are many more people, including the owner of the "pink vlcaks", in-bred descendants of CW dogs. http://www.wolfdog.org/forum/showthread.php?t=20855

03/05/12, 15:51	#1
Norky Junior Member Datum registrace: Sep 2008 Location: Kecskemét,Külsőnyír 155/a Příspěvků: 44	Letter Considering the current situation that our member in Hungary, MEOE, is facing, the FCI members and the FCI General Committee wish to reiterate their full support to our very long-standing member that has been sharing our wonderful existence since 1933. Talks and negotiations will take place with the Hungarian political authorities to envisage the future but we want to insist to the world dog community that MEOE can count with our unconditioned support and friendship. H.W. Müller FCI President

03/05/12, 22:06	#2
GalomyOak Howling Member Datum registrace: Jun 2007 Location: Colorado Příspěvků: 436	I think I understand better now. Thanks! It's such a different system for me to understand. Most "smaller" kennel clubs (local or breed clubs), as well as our parent organization, AKC, are private organizations. But they are also federal/state recognized organizations also. Most do not pay taxes - they are considered educational non-profit groups. __________________ "What lies behind us and what lies ahead of us are tiny matters compared to what lies within us."~Henry David Thoreau http://www.galomyoak.com Last edited by GalomyOak : 03/05/12 at 22:09

04/05/12, 06:59	#3
Rona Distinguished Member Datum registrace: Aug 2004 Location: Kraków Příspěvků: 3509	Should the present Hungarian KC reacted to vlcak community pledges to sort out the doubts connected with the appearance of "pink CSVs" descendng from CW lines, I'd be motivated to offer my support now. CSV owners kept asking the Hungarian KC to fulfil the FCI statutory obligations and conduct enquiry, but unfortunately, as far as I know, recieved no answer and no action was taken. Seems FCI regulations did not matter much to the present Hungarian KC anyway, so why should we be bothered? __________________