Sotis D-litter & "infertile" Kondor

[z Peronówki]

Originally Posted by Czertice

Oh no, no names Margo. I'm sorry that I even mentioned the rumour, I don't want to join in the "war." It's just what I heard.

Czertice, I have NOTHING against you but you can see how sick is the situation in your country right now. Lies are being spread, liars are even members of the breeding comittee... People repeat the lies without to be affraid of ANY consequences. "Famous" breeders do not only tolerate liars, but actively defend them. Sorry, but this is no more "breeding in the country of origin," but the very bottom....


What would YOU say if I would say your dogs is ill mongrel, with fake pedigree, to small size (with cheated bonitation), agressive character, wrong bite? And you are just criminal? No Certice, what people in Czech Republic continiue to repeat are no more RUMORS told by someone. It is an organized group of people dedicated to injure breeders/owners and our breed.

[Rona]

does that mean that the actual listed fathership of the G-litter of z Peronówki is doubtful?

Father Kondor:





Daughter Garuda:




Gothmog and Garuda:

Gothmog:


Gwaihir:




Gibil:




Somebody who questions Kondor's fatherhood of these dogs must be either blind, or ....very "jelous"

[z Peronówki]

Originally Posted by Rona

Somebody who questions Kondor's fatherhood of these dogs must be either blind, or ....very "jelous"

I think we have more to do with the usual pathology: pathological liar.

[wolfin]

Geryon ZP are a clon Cesar ( Kondor father) this proofe and old slovak breeder too.
Czertize, we not need a name, we know his. Not first time bulshit tell this person, and I think not latest. I hope her work help her in this way what she wish for others.

And if are question about Kondors paternity- I can send Geryon DNA to testing for CZ club any problem only test make a club and pay fee.

[z Peronówki]

Originally Posted by wolfin

And if are question about Kondors paternity- I can send Geryon DNA to testing for CZ club any problem only test make a club and pay fee.

I already suggested it. I told we can arrange it: I can ask all the owners to send the blood for testing. If Kondor is not the father I will pay for everything. If he is not the father the person who is telling the lies will pay all expences. Till now I have not answer... Only the lie is spreading...

It is not the only case - there are more and more lies.... Really - since some years I'm veryfing EVERY news comming from Czech Republic SEVERAL TIMES till I believe in it...
For me, a large number of Czech breeders (including the club) completely lost its credibility.

[Rona]

Originally Posted by z Peronówki

I can ask all the owners to send the blood for testing. If Kondor is not the father I will pay for everything. If he is not the father the person who is telling the lies will pay all expences.

Great idea! Especially that the DNA result would be 0:1 - Kondor is (or was?) either fertile or infertile. The accusstions will be verified if by DNA testing just one pup turns out to be Kondor's progeny.

I'd only suggest chosing a reliable and independent laboratory, or double test the dog(s) in question, because those who lie usually have no problem with cheating .

[z Peronówki]

Originally Posted by Rona

The accusstions will be verified if by DNA testing just one pup turns out to be Kondor's progeny.

I doubt about it.... We do not deal with NORMAL people...

Kondor is (was - I don't know if he is still alive) fertile for 100% and only blind people can doubt about it... The whole story about "infertile Kondor" was started by an envy Czech breeder who was trying to promote her stud dog (from the D-litter Sotis). Since it came out that her dog is not the son of Kondor she started to spread lies about the G-litter....
It is just her another private war. And not the first lie we deal with...