Physical superiority

[El Patron]

My question was more about physical attributes then mental attributes. (Its good you listed them any ways though)

What I wonder is, why are CSV's slimmer then GSD's. I've read that Carpathian wolves are not as heavy set as American wolves but they are still larger then GSD's.

So what happened that made CSV's slimmer then GSD's? And are they slimmer and taller? slimmer and the same height? or slimmer and shorter? Is there to much variation to say any thing definite?

(Note, all I know about the Czechoslovakian Wolfdog is what I've read, so I'm just information gathering at this point.)

[avgrunn]

As far as I remember GSD females are (when it comes to height at withers) from 55-60 , males are 60-65 not more. Vlcaks height at withers is:females 60 and up, males 65 and up. Of course there can be smaller vlcaks, it happenes.

Slimmer may be the wrong word, lighter I guess would be better. Vlcaks are lighter , their bodies are shorter, the angulation of their legs is different more of a wolf. Thus they are faster, they have better endurance, they regenerate more quickly. But as I said before, there can be heavier vlcaks, it very often comes with the height, not always, but very often thus they are taller but also heavier, which changes their physical abilities.

[yukidomari]

Standard sized CsV are taller than standard sized GSDs. But their build is lighter and narrower.

But I note that I see many (the majority on the street) of GSDs that are just too huge, a major departure from the standard, and similar for CsV, many that are too heavy-built (deep chest, short legs, long index). So of course what I said applies to only typical and ideal CsV and GSD.

[saschia]

Oh yes, they are slimmer, in sense that their ribcage is narrower and so is the positioning of the front legs, they are placed kind of in line with the sides of the ribs. Their elbows are tucked in, so they are narrower, their rib cage is narrowed even more in the bottom part of the chest, so the elbows have anough space. Combined with longer legs, they are therefore also lighter than similar size GSD.

They are I think stronger in comparison to similarly muscled GSD, and thanks to their intelligence they can abuse their strength.

Also, their teeth are more robust than GSD, and the canine teeth are longer.

It is hard to say about speed, as I rarely see wolfdog running at the top of their abilities.

My opinion is that from the point of view of pure physique, average wolfdog is better than average GSD, even a well-angled (= natural, not modern show type) GSD.

[avgrunn]

Originally Posted by saschia

Oh yes, they are slimmer, in sense that their ribcage is narrower and so is the positioning of the front legs, they are placed kind of in line with the sides of the ribs. Their elbows are tucked in, so they are narrower, their rib cage is narrowed even more in the bottom part of the chest, so the elbows have anough space. Combined with longer legs, they are therefore also lighter than similar size GSD.

In that sense they are slimmer , though I've seen vlcaks bigger than GSDs , bigger in every sense, and I am not talking about the long haired ones which are definitely bigger. I guess vlcaks are more compact.