Mixes: Crying Wolf (Hungary)

Margo · 13-06-2014, 10:11

Please remove the ? by the whole E-Crying Wolf litter. And all their offsprings: http://www.wolfdog.org/pl/dbase/d/23149

The litter E was registered in Hungary but it was bred by Milan Budaj (Slovakia). He covered Arys with his dog Hitt and sold her to Edith first later.

SARKA · 13-06-2014, 14:03

This is a wrong information, Arys in 2008 was in the kennel Crying Wolf of Edith. I was present when Edit made progesteron to the two females (Arys z Oravy and Ariminum Andromeda ,my female)from his vet. She went in Slovakia for coupled Arys with Hitt. Surely the litter is just like other litters of Edith. The problem is with the litter Y,it is essential to take the test dna.

Andrew86 · 13-06-2014, 16:45

Sarka the problem is another: only my litter between Żela z Peronowki and Evander Crying Wolf has the symbol (_?_). Other Evander's litters with Fantazie z Vlčí Chaloupky and Beáta Grey Střípek snu don't have this mark (_?_).
Fantazie has a second litter with Emir Crying Wolf (brother of Evander) and it hasn't -> (_?_). There is no reason to put the mark only to my litter. In Facebook is a photo album from mating to birth and growth of puppies. I do not understand the reason of mark (_?_).

wolfin · 13-06-2014, 21:12

Adrea, speak with Edith about Arys DNA - Milan I think give Hitt DNA without problem and you solve a disput about E litter for all time

vin-mix · 14-06-2014, 23:50

This is ridiculous!!

SARKA · 15-06-2014, 09:47

Certo ridicolo come altre cucciolate non solo quella di Echo .

vin-mix · 15-06-2014, 22:47

ma infatti io non mi riferivo solo a quella cucciolata, ma a tutto il resto...delle cucciolate che con il cecoslovacco non ci azzeccano proprio si sa e sono ben visibili, così come di quelle su cui non c'è nulla da ridire

admin · 04-03-2015, 01:12

Because of mixing Saarloos and Czechoslovakian Wolfdogs in the Hungarian kennel "Crying wolf" all dogs from this kennel born after 2004 became suspicious.
Despite the lack of cooperation of the mentioned breeder the owners managed to clean up some of the suspicion - breeders do not have to worry about using those dogs for breeding.

Crying Wolf dogs with confirmed parentage:

Yvain Crying Wolf
Gisotsu Crying Wolf
Evander Crying Wolf

Ary75 · 05-03-2015, 22:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by admin

Because of mixing Saarloos and Czechoslovakian Wolfdogs in the Hungarian kennel "Crying wolf" all dogs from this kennel born after 2004 became suspicious.
Despite the lack of cooperation of the mentioned breeder the owners managed to clean up some of the suspicion - breeders do not have to worry about using those dogs for breeding.

Crying Wolf dogs with confirmed parentage:

Yvain Crying Wolf
Gisotsu Crying Wolf
Evander Crying Wolf

Excuse me, I have a question. Why my dog (Gewell Thalia Mirada Loca) is a "mix" ?

admin · 10-03-2015, 21:14

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Originally Posted by Ary75

Excuse me, I have a question. Why my dog (Gewell Thalia Mirada Loca) is a "mix" ?

I do not see you dog in the database.

yukidomari · 10-03-2015, 23:09

http://wolfdog.org/dbase/d/25708

Ary75 · 11-03-2015, 07:45

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Originally Posted by admin

I do not see you dog in the database.

Giwell Thalia Miranda Loca. not care if MIX or not my dog is spayed .. seen .. but I can not find the right one day you wake up and say are crossings! for what reason and according to what they write such things. I hope that they have valid documentation

admin · 17-03-2015, 14:21

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Originally Posted by Ary75

but I can not find the right one day you wake up and say are crossings! for what reason and according to what they write such things. I hope that they have valid documentation

Yes, they have. The words MIX is added do all not tested dogs which are offspring of dogs from the Hungarian kennel "Crying Wolf". Reason: Crying Wolf was mixing Saarloos and CzW and registered them unter fake FCI pedigrees (the parents written in the Hungarian pedigrees do not match in many cases to the reality):
http://www.wolfdog.org/forum/showthread.php?t=18510

admin · 17-03-2015, 14:24

In the case of your puppy it is even more strange because the litter of this litter - Beatus (bred by Crying Wolf) was registered outside Hungary on another kennel called "vom Haus Milesevac" (from Serbia).
Very strange....

13-06-2014, 10:11	#1
Margo Moderator Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Późna Posts: 1,281	Echo Crying Wolf Please remove the ? by the whole E-Crying Wolf litter. And all their offsprings: http://www.wolfdog.org/pl/dbase/d/23149 The litter E was registered in Hungary but it was bred by Milan Budaj (Slovakia). He covered Arys with his dog Hitt and sold her to Edith first later. __________________ . The customs of your tribe are not laws of nature - George Bernard Shaw

13-06-2014, 14:03	#2
SARKA Arimminum Kennel Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Rimini Posts: 1,230	This is a wrong information, Arys in 2008 was in the kennel Crying Wolf of Edith. I was present when Edit made progesteron to the two females (Arys z Oravy and Ariminum Andromeda ,my female)from his vet. She went in Slovakia for coupled Arys with Hitt. Surely the litter is just like other litters of Edith. The problem is with the litter Y,it is essential to take the test dna. __________________ Sarka Matrasova www.lupocecoslovacco.it

13-06-2014, 16:45	#3
Andrew86 Moderator Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Roma Posts: 37	Sarka the problem is another: only my litter between Żela z Peronowki and Evander Crying Wolf has the symbol (_?_). Other Evander's litters with Fantazie z Vlčí Chaloupky and Beáta Grey Střípek snu don't have this mark (_?_). Fantazie has a second litter with Emir Crying Wolf (brother of Evander) and it hasn't -> (_?_). There is no reason to put the mark only to my litter. In Facebook is a photo album from mating to birth and growth of puppies. I do not understand the reason of mark (_?_). __________________ Salto del Lupowww.saltodellupo.it

13-06-2014, 21:12	#4
wolfin Moderator Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Where the wolf lives Posts: 6,095	Adrea, speak with Edith about Arys DNA - Milan I think give Hitt DNA without problem and you solve a disput about E litter for all time __________________

14-06-2014, 23:50	#5
vin-mix Junior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: marcianise (ce) Posts: 70	This is ridiculous!! __________________ --------------------------------------------- Ciao da Bye bye baby & Echo crying wolf (Loco)

15-06-2014, 09:47	#6
SARKA Arimminum Kennel Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Rimini Posts: 1,230	Certo ridicolo come altre cucciolate non solo quella di Echo . __________________ Sarka Matrasova www.lupocecoslovacco.it

15-06-2014, 22:47	#7
vin-mix Junior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: marcianise (ce) Posts: 70	ma infatti io non mi riferivo solo a quella cucciolata, ma a tutto il resto...delle cucciolate che con il cecoslovacco non ci azzeccano proprio si sa e sono ben visibili, così come di quelle su cui non c'è nulla da ridire __________________ --------------------------------------------- Ciao da Bye bye baby & Echo crying wolf (Loco)

04-03-2015, 01:12	#8
admin Moderator Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 583	List of Crying Wolf dogs cleared of suspicion. Because of mixing Saarloos and Czechoslovakian Wolfdogs in the Hungarian kennel "Crying wolf" all dogs from this kennel born after 2004 became suspicious. Despite the lack of cooperation of the mentioned breeder the owners managed to clean up some of the suspicion - breeders do not have to worry about using those dogs for breeding. Crying Wolf dogs with confirmed parentage: Yvain Crying Wolf Gisotsu Crying Wolf Evander Crying Wolf

10-03-2015, 23:09	#11
yukidomari Moderator Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Los Angeles CA Posts: 847	http://wolfdog.org/dbase/d/25708 __________________ "Learn to do well; seek judgment." www.greyfarer.com/

17-03-2015, 14:24	#14
admin Moderator Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 583	In the case of your puppy it is even more strange because the litter of this litter - Beatus (bred by Crying Wolf) was registered outside Hungary on another kennel called "vom Haus Milesevac" (from Serbia). Very strange....