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Vecchio 04-20-2007, 08:57 AM   #61
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I have only question.
ok, have this situation.
Breding wolfxdog mix with normal wolfdog.
and what character whe have?
All puppies stay with breeder? or hes salle?
and not have problems with WOLFDOG ??? (mixes, but with wolfdogs pedigree and name) bite and more problems with working and utility, shy character, agresion?

i think-whe have NORMAL breed and now mas make better character, not eksterjer.
You all can see shy dogs (not 1 or 2 but more) is shy linie in breed and mas working with this problems, not breeding new mix.

and FCI I grup is working dogs grup, and wolfdog is working dog with utility exam. Will whe have wolfdogs in FCI IX grup-toy and decoration dogs?
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Vecchio 04-20-2007, 12:33 PM   #62
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All puppies stay with breeder? or hes salle?
Hi, according to the email posted by that person in this thread yesterday, email that is supposedly attributed to the said breeder, he is NOT selling those puppies. In fact, according to the ENCI database, he's owner of all the puppies (well, they are rather grown up puppies..), beside 2 of them - owned by someone else (it's said in previous posts).
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Vecchio 04-20-2007, 01:07 PM   #63
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All puppies stay with breeder? or hes salle?
Hi, according to the email posted by that person in this thread yesterday, email that is supposedly attributed to the said breeder, he is NOT selling those puppies. In fact, according to the ENCI database, he's owner of all the puppies (well, they are rather grown up puppies..), beside 2 of them - owned by someone else (it's said in previous posts).
hmm 1 2 or 5 dogs is ok. but from breeding new linie this breeder mas stay minimum 3 generation mix and all dogs.

and working with hem, wheil wolfdog is working breed and make test for hem psychology and utility.

it's not right?
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Vecchio 04-20-2007, 01:12 PM   #64
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Hi, according to the email posted by that person in this thread yesterday, email that is supposedly attributed to the said breeder, he is NOT selling those puppies.
The litter of Lion and Alaska was given as an ad of Wolfdog.org so the breeder WAS looking for buyers for the mixes...
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Vecchio 04-20-2007, 01:22 PM   #65
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Hi, according to the email posted by that person in this thread yesterday, email that is supposedly attributed to the said breeder, he is NOT selling those puppies.
The litter of Lion and Alaska was given as an ad of Wolfdog.org so the breeder WAS looking for buyers for the mixes...
I've just read it in the other thread.. I wasn't aware
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Vecchio 04-20-2007, 04:41 PM   #66
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I interested in puppy Passo del Lupo but read about Alaska and am worried. I asked breeder and have reply. I publish it as legit recipent.
HI!

Could you please tell me who wrote this email? I have answer that the words were not written by the breeder...

http://www.wolfdog.org/php/modules.p...wtopic&p=90102
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Vecchio 04-20-2007, 07:45 PM   #67
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I interested in puppy Passo del Lupo but read about Alaska and am worried. Shocked I asked breeder and have reply. I publish it as legit recipent.
Altra incredibile bugia.

Ho certezza (e sai che è vero) che nessuno ha mai chiesto a Wolfdog di pubblicare la cucciolata di Lion x Alaska.

I cuccioli di quella cucciolata sono stati dedotti e inseriti in Wolfdog senza il consenso dei proprietari.

Smettila di pubblicare falsità o di fare affermazioni di cui non hai prove.
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Vecchio 04-20-2007, 08:50 PM   #68
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Can somebody translate it ?

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Can somebody translate it ?
This is what he said:

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Another incredible lie.

I'm certain (and you know it's true) that noone has ever asked Wolfdog to publicize the Lion x Alaska litter.

The puppies of that litter have been deducted and added on Wolfdog without the owner's agreement.

Stop posting lies and making statements you can't back up with proves
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Vecchio 04-20-2007, 09:05 PM   #70
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Hmm...if all lie, PLEASE can You Fabio explain this situation, or You not interesing for breed good, only will breding/producent puppies?

Please explain this only You Fabio cann this all explain.

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Another incredible lie.

I'm certain (and you know it's true) that noone has ever asked Wolfdog to publicize the Lion x Alaska litter.

The puppies of that litter have been deducted and added on Wolfdog without the owner's agreement.

Stop posting lies and making statements you can't back up with proves
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Vecchio 04-20-2007, 09:58 PM   #71
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Another incredible lie.

I'm certain (and you know it's true) that noone has ever asked Wolfdog to publicize the Lion x Alaska litter.

The puppies of that litter have been deducted and added on Wolfdog without the owner's agreement.

Stop posting lies and making statements you can't back up with proves
Excuse me? Are you implying that Margo or Przemek advertised on wolfdog an Italian litter without the knowledge of the breeder??? Are you trying to make fools of us? Maybe tomorrowq you will try to convince us that either Margo or Przemek invented ALASKA?
I suggest that if you want to LIE you should do it more skillfully

By the way, could you explain what kind of dog Alaska is? What is her heritage and where she comes from? If you have nothing to hide this shouldn't be a problem, should it?
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Vecchio 04-21-2007, 10:12 AM   #72
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Another incredible lie.

I'm certain (and you know it's true) that noone has ever asked Wolfdog to publicize the Lion x Alaska litter.

The puppies of that litter have been deducted and added on Wolfdog without the owner's agreement.

Stop posting lies and making statements you can't back up with proves
Excuse me? Are you implying that Margo or Przemek advertised on wolfdog an Italian litter without the knowledge of the breeder???
Si.
Io e mia moglie siamo le sole persone che possono mandare certe informazioni.
E Margo lo sa.
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Vecchio 04-21-2007, 11:43 AM   #73
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of topic.
very interesing case.
Mrs.Fabio wright in italian, but he untersant english.
You make from as idiots?
in this case i about You can lithuan wright, was translate this in Your lenquaqe.
please wright english, or going out from this forum.

we not like a TROLS.
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Vecchio 04-21-2007, 12:07 PM   #74
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I think we all should try to be correct to each others.
Agressive writing with bad words don't help.
There is lot of people angry, and disappointed etc. but everybody should be able to write correct to each others.

To blame someone "stupid,idiot" etc. sounds a bit childish.
We are (almost) all adults, and we should behave like that.

At internet is often very easy to write many things which never said face to face.

Everybody; Think best for the breed, don't use energy for fighting or calling people with bad names.

-Suski
(mother of 3 kids, seems to have time to spend on internet still )
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Vecchio 04-21-2007, 12:08 PM   #75
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I think we all should try to be correct to each others.
Agressive writing with bad words don't help.
There is lot of people angry, and disappointed etc. but everybody should be able to write correct to each others.

To blame someone "stupid,idiot" etc. sounds a bit childish.
We are (almost) all adults, and we should behave like that.

At internet is often very easy to write many things which never said face to face.

Everybody; Think best for the breed, don't use energy for fighting or calling people with bad names.

-Suski
(mother of 3 kids, seems to have time to spend on internet still )
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Vecchio 04-21-2007, 12:17 PM   #76
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Susana, i agree You, but i not unterstand italian, and this variant from me is...hmm
all have translators or dictionary and in forums we speak our native language.

of not?
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Vecchio 04-21-2007, 12:21 PM   #77
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Yes, i know. If write english forum, should be in English.
Of course. I don't understund italian either, but i think if is something really important, somebody will translate it.

So, all we can do is waite

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Vecchio 04-21-2007, 12:41 PM   #78
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Since I translated from english to italian on this topic I can do the other way.. but yes, it looks like he could do it on his own. However:

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Yes.
My wife and myself are the only people who can send certain informations.
And Margo knows it.
If the translation is not good enough, he's saying he and his wife are the only one who could have registered the Lion x Alaska mating on wolfdog and, according to him, they did not
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Vecchio 04-21-2007, 05:08 PM   #79
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to the light of the last facts maybe we should think of having the test of DNA which are put to all the dogs in reproduction to give a bigger guarantee to the customers done



sorry of my english
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Well, i saw Passo de Lupo web page and found more information in other places, and sorry but this is farm of dogs but not kennel And i understant why these dogs dont have any psichic test and any working test, farm animals goes only for the meat not for work o for plesure, i am very sorry of those dogs And let the owner of that kennel writte to FCI to recognise his dogs as a new breed because they don't look like CSW....
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