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[Margo]

Originally Posted by Mirkawolf

Neither is our duty to send you photos and informations about our dogs, is it. So if we do something for you, you have to do something for us.. Sorry that´s how it works.

Mirka - I think nobody is so naive to say that breeders and owners send us photos, information, litter advertisments and show results to make US happy... To help US...
NO! They do it because they profit from it - in different ways... They aleady profit that the web site exists.... They have the chance to show their dogs, achievements and daily life with dogs...
So sending photos and informations about your dogs is no your duty or something what you do for ME. You do it for YOURSELF!

Sure we are happy Wolfdog.org is getting bigger and developing. Also thanks to people which make something not only for themself but also for others. There are people who help us sending information not only about their own dogs. And they make it voluntarily. They never complain, they never criticize or scold someone. They just help...

Originally Posted by Mirkawolf

Yes, I have problems with the photos. Other people have problems with not added litters, dog show results and other informations.

So it is our DUTY, right...?
You know - I think we are the only people on Wolfdog which will never give up... But there were so many people which were helping us before but they stopped. Why? Exactly because the attitute of some people "YOU MUST DO THIS! IT IS YOUR WORK! You are the MODERATOR! HURRY UP!".

Please really STOP IT. We lost about 5 moderators because of it... I hope we will not loose more... Remember WE and other MODERATORS are people which make something voluntarily. Everyone of us has private life, own dogs and own problems. And people have to respect it. If someone do not agree with it - there are two solution:

1) Nobody is forced to use Wolfdog.... Everybody has free will...

...OR...

2) There is a great rule not only in the internet: YOU GET WHAT YOU ARE PAYING FOR.
What you pay for Wolfdog? NOTHING. What you can expect.....? So ENYTING is done here by moderators or administrators is just BONUS...

If we will all decide we want someone who will answer ALL questions very fast, will talk to all people and sit whole day adding the information - no problem. We can make a fund and employ computer technician who will sit here 8 hours a days, 5 days a week... But I'm affraid if the people which are so loud now will be prepared to add to this fund even 100 EUR every month...

Originally Posted by Mirkawolf

And you know very well, that I am not the only person, who has troubles with photos stolen, or lets call it taken from their website without permission. When we used to co-operate with WD and submit photos for you through the painfully difficult and elaborated process, we were getting numerous e-mails from people, who did not send photos to you (or Wolfdog.org) and yet photos from their kennels were appearing in the galleries.

No, Mirka. Again it is not true. If we get information any photos are published without asking the author for permission they are removed VERY FAST. It is VERY EASY way: it is enough to send us URL of the photo and the photo will dissapear. Who tried it saw it is working very fast. So again: copy URL -> email to WOLFDOG -> photo REMOVED

Even if this topic is published, even if there are rules for publishing photos there willbe ALWAYS cases copyrighted photos will appear in the galllery. Why - because as I wrote - it is not possible to see who took the specific photo... So the only way is to write us when someone will see HIS OWN photos (taken by HIMSELF) which was published without his permission...

But remember I'm not a fairy - if I get a information "some photos of my dogs must dissapear because they were published without my persmission" I will not remove them besause HOW should I know WHICH photos should we remove. The other problem is: people want sometimes to remove photos taken by someone else. They do not understand they CAN NOT ask for it because they are not the "onwners" of the photos...

Originally Posted by Mirkawolf

Yeah. Nothing so good as beating the poor owners of the dogs, who send you copyrighted photos. Good job.

Originally Posted by Mirkawolf

By the way you act though, it is not me who is beaten up on your decision, but the poor owners of dogs, who sent you copyrighted and therefore APPROOVED pictures

?!?! I do not understand you. First you are calling me a thief because I added some copyrighted photos added by the people. Now you are attacking me because I removed them...? HOW should I see which photos you APROOVED? And which not? If I will leave some photos which were not added by you how can I be sure you will not call me a thieft next week?????

OK, I leave it... It really shows the whole photos-gate is just a pretext... I do not care for the hidden reason - I know them already... So please we can concentrate on the problem with the photos. Some owners were so king to send us links to more copyrighted photos with your logo and we removed them. If you same there a some more please send me the URLs and I promise you the will be also removed immediately...