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			Numbers of offsprings 10 topplist on CsV born after year 2000. 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			Whit COI on 5 generations… 47 offsprings ---COI 21,53%---2002.12.31 Baron spod Ïumbiera 48 offsprings ---COI 16,36%---2001.12.03 Batt Malý Bysterec 54 offsprings ---COI 18,16%---2004.01.31 Merlin Crying Wolf 51 offsprings ---COI 9,32%---2000.10.06 Rendy ---Passo del Lupo--- 55 offsprings ---COI 12,25%---2001.12.04 Edgar Passo del Lupo 60 offsprings ---COI 7,76%---2004.11.11 Vaicko Passo del Lupo 73 offsprings ---COI 5,22%---2003.04.18 Timber Wolf Arimminum 82 offsprings ---COI 5,22%---2002.10.15 Duncan ---Colle del Lupo--- 135 offsprings ---COI 8,35%---2001.04.12 Cutt ---dell'Irco Sortiere--- 151 offsprings ---COI 10,20%---2002.10.03 Miky Passo del Lupo Regards / Mikael 
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			but about bitch offspring You not wright? who not be bitch who have moore 50 pupps. And thi be same evil.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
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			It is, why in Czech work breed comission. It is, why we try to keep 7 base bloodlines and much males in every class.  We know sotuation in other states. in much country is easy to take two "wolfsih type of wolfdogs " and make pups. But is not easy to keep level of Wright down. We need not new wolves in breed, we need to help to lines what are not much in the World. It is work for clubs, not to produce some pups in wolf type, but very related..... 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	I know, not in all casses we can make "not related pairs", but we try it. For example: last my two litters was Wright 1,51 and 3,9.My two next litters will have 4,19 and 4.83. Is it possible, but you must choose good male (good for blood), not only champions with wolf face.  | 
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			hmmm, but Hanka You latest litter make only wirh CH and winner,a and make linebreeding IV-IV. Maybe COI be ok but people who cann chceck inbreed variant see others. 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
	p.s. I not atack You, only thake this like example. I think for others people better when we speak about us dogs, others not see atack for hes. Regards  | 
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			I don´t care about his titles, but it is blood what is not in Czech. 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	It was important for me. Not more.It is his first litter in Czech. He lives far and nobody travel there for mateing. So we will have something "new" here for next breeding. It is good for Wright, or NO?  | 
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 I really think we nead some international breeding roules, (recommendations) about COI, total Offspring´s and repeated litters... I do think that the most breeders do try to keep the COI low, but it is a question how long this will be possible... if some breeders make litters whit a COI on 20-50% on 5 generations !!! And take over 50 Offspring´s ??? Not just the COI on 5 generation is important, but the total pedigee to... I think we and the clubs better react NOW, not in 4-8 years, then it might be to late !!! Very best regards / Mikael 
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