Book on the Czechoslovakian Wolfdog - English translation?

GalomyOak · 08/02/11, 23:01

Recently, I was able to see the book written by Ing. Karel Hartl and Jindrich Jedlicka (1996/2002) - and have done a rough translation into English for myself - the book is pure gold, really a delight to read, and very informative! At some point, I remember someone saying an English version was being (officially?) worked on. Did the translation ever get finished or published? If not, I would be very happy to offer my assistance on either mission - with permission from the authors and publishers, of course.

Hanka · 09/02/11, 08:29

Hi Marcy, officiall english version does not exist.

Mikael · 09/02/11, 22:38

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The translation is finished. Now it has to be corrected. If this is done very soon, it can be on the market about March.

That was March 2010... I do not know what did hapen after this, but I did send a PM to the one making the English version, I will post as soon as I hear from her...

Best regards / Mikael

Vaiva · 09/02/11, 23:35

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Originally Posted by Hanka

Hi Marcy, officiall english version does not exist.

And... unofficial?....

Priska182 · 09/02/11, 23:45

I'm actually working on a French translation with the agreement of Ing. Karel Hartl

And after that it will be easier to obtain an English translation...

GalomyOak · 09/02/11, 23:56

I think I have my answer.

I think there will be a book - in English - soon! The English speaking CSV world is in for a real treat!

That's great that it will also be in French soon! It's a wonderful part of history for our breed!

Priska182 · 10/02/11, 00:08

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Originally Posted by GalomyOak

I think I have my answer.

I think there will be a book - in English - soon! The English speaking CSV world is in for a real treat!

That's great that it will also be in French soon! It's a wonderful part of history for our breed!

Hello Marcy,
I also think it will be really great for our breed, and I was waiting for a French or an English version since 12 years now... So I try to do it myself

It's really a big job, so when the French version will be ready, it will be really great if we can work together on an English version

I think it will be really great if we can publish them for the breed here in America

wolfin · 10/02/11, 00:32

I think better we mas write new book with today information about breed, training ,healty and feeding.
When I in 2002 years brought my first CSV I had and this book in czech language ( yes I read she all for me this no problem) and ... I was very sad- she are antique. old info, with very small hystorical info, and she me not help in growing my first CSV. I mas search others info resources, not this book.
Yes to read, like first CSV book- this are interesing, but not moore.

Vaiva · 10/02/11, 00:49

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Originally Posted by wolfin

I think better we mas write new book with today information about breed, training ,healty and feeding.
When I in 2002 years brought my first CSV I had and this book in czech language ( yes I read she all for me this no problem) and ... I was very sad- she are antique. old info, with very small hystorical info, and she me not help in growing my first CSV. I mas search others info resources, not this book.
Yes to read, like first CSV book- this are interesing, but not moore.

Dear, if you write this book I will ASURE the professional english translation - if you make it in Lithuanian, and I am sure you can

Not translated by myself ofcourse, but I have some friends that could help in this work!!!

wolfin · 10/02/11, 00:54

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Originally Posted by Vaiva

Dear, if you write this book I will ASURE the professional english translation - if you make it in Lithuanian, and I am sure you can

Not translated by myself ofcourse, but I have some friends that could help in this work!!!

this working... moore info soon..

thanks

michaelundinaeichhorn · 10/02/11, 10:13

Daiva is right. Even in 2002 the information was quite limited.
You get more information if you work yourself through this website.

Michael

Koos · 10/02/11, 11:19

Hello

The book of K. Hartl we have translated at first into the Dutch language. After that we have let made it into the German version and we have worked also on the English version.

This took more time than we have expected but now it is ready and the book will be available at least at the end of this month.

Greetings,

Letty de Graaff
Kennel van Goverwelle
www.graaff-goverwelle.nl

elf · 10/02/11, 11:37

Are you all refering too "Ceskoslovenský vlcák, Ing. Karel Hartl, Jindrich Jedlicka, Brno 2002" (60p pdf) ?

If yes take care to don't reinvent the wheel, even if no perfect google translation works very good (I read it no problem through ces->eng translation), the only pitfall is google allow only something like 10 pages translation but this can easliy be solve by pdf spiting/merging (pdfsam software).

If someone is working on a new book, please include the great work done by genetic department of CZ university.

André · 10/02/11, 11:48

CZ Univ? Which univ exactly?

elf · 10/02/11, 12:55

I though of this one: http://www.fappz.dev.webcore.czu.cz/en/?r=2382

Would be nice to gather somewhere Universities working on CSV, and gather publications in one thread.

Mikael · 10/02/11, 21:23

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Originally Posted by KoosLetydeGraaff

Hello

The book of K. Hartl we have translated at first into the Dutch language. After that we have let made it into the German version and we have worked also on the English version.

This took more time than we have expected but now it is ready and the book will be available at least at the end of this month.

Greetings,

Letty de Graaff
Kennel van Goverwelle
www.graaff-goverwelle.nl

Nice Letty

Good Work

I want one or maybe more than one

Very best regards / Mikael

Priska182 · 10/02/11, 22:50

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Originally Posted by KoosLetydeGraaff

This took more time than we have expected but now it is ready and the book will be available at least at the end of this month.

WOW it's really nice to at list will be able to purchase it in English

Thank you for your work on it

mijke · 11/02/11, 02:30

Of course it would be GREAT to have an English translation of this original book

But I agree with Daiva, Mikael, Vaiva , Michael, Elf and others

It is an old "standard" book about the beginning of the breed (and of course still very interesting!)

But even in 2002 the information was quite limited and on wolfdog.org this is/was (since the crash it is more limited) possible to find more info about nowadays development about this breed

So I agree with Daiva for 100% with this comment:

Quote:

Originally Posted by wolfin

I think better we mas write new book with today information about breed, training ,healty and feeding.
When I in 2002 years brought my first CSV I had and this book in czech language ( yes I read she all for me this no problem) and ... I was very sad- she are antique. old info, with very small hystorical info, and she me not help in growing my first CSV. I mas search others info resources, not this book.
Yes to read, like first CSV book- this are interesing, but not moore.

And I'll support writers of "new books" about the breed as much as I can

hanninadina · 11/02/11, 10:54

@Elf are there genetics research information from the University in Czech done for czechoslovakian wolfdogs? Do you have the direct link. Or why are you refering to them?

Thanks

Christian

PS: in first short look, I could not find a word about the csw.

buidelwolf · 11/02/11, 20:18

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Originally Posted by hanninadina

@Elf are there genetics research information from the University in Czech done for czechoslovakian wolfdogs? Do you have the direct link. Or why are you refering to them?

Thanks

Christian

PS: in first short look, I could not find a word about the csw.

http://wp.czu.cz/cs/index.php/?r=107...ion=1263281364

http://wp.czu.cz/cs/index.php/?r=107...ion=1263281380

08/02/11, 23:01	#1
GalomyOak Howling Member Datum registrace: Jun 2007 Location: Colorado Příspěvků: 436	Book on the Czechoslovakian Wolfdog - English translation? Recently, I was able to see the book written by Ing. Karel Hartl and Jindrich Jedlicka (1996/2002) - and have done a rough translation into English for myself - the book is pure gold, really a delight to read, and very informative! At some point, I remember someone saying an English version was being (officially?) worked on. Did the translation ever get finished or published? If not, I would be very happy to offer my assistance on either mission - with permission from the authors and publishers, of course. __________________ "What lies behind us and what lies ahead of us are tiny matters compared to what lies within us."~Henry David Thoreau http://www.galomyoak.com

09/02/11, 23:45	#5
Priska182 Canadian Member Datum registrace: Jan 2008 Location: Montréal Příspěvků: 423	I'm actually working on a French translation with the agreement of Ing. Karel Hartl And after that it will be easier to obtain an English translation... __________________ Stéphanie www.inugami.ca

09/02/11, 23:56	#6
GalomyOak Howling Member Datum registrace: Jun 2007 Location: Colorado Příspěvků: 436	I think I have my answer. I think there will be a book - in English - soon! The English speaking CSV world is in for a real treat! That's great that it will also be in French soon! It's a wonderful part of history for our breed! __________________ "What lies behind us and what lies ahead of us are tiny matters compared to what lies within us."~Henry David Thoreau http://www.galomyoak.com

10/02/11, 00:32	#8
wolfin Moderator Datum registrace: Sep 2003 Location: Where the wolf lives Příspěvků: 6095	I think better we mas write new book with today information about breed, training ,healty and feeding. When I in 2002 years brought my first CSV I had and this book in czech language ( yes I read she all for me this no problem) and ... I was very sad- she are antique. old info, with very small hystorical info, and she me not help in growing my first CSV. I mas search others info resources, not this book. Yes to read, like first CSV book- this are interesing, but not moore. __________________

10/02/11, 11:37	#13
elf Member Datum registrace: Oct 2006 Příspěvků: 766	Are you all refering too "Ceskoslovenský vlcák, Ing. Karel Hartl, Jindrich Jedlicka, Brno 2002" (60p pdf) ? If yes take care to don't reinvent the wheel, even if no perfect google translation works very good (I read it no problem through ces->eng translation), the only pitfall is google allow only something like 10 pages translation but this can easliy be solve by pdf spiting/merging (pdfsam software). If someone is working on a new book, please include the great work done by genetic department of CZ university. __________________ http://www.amicale-chien-loup-tcheco...m/csvstat.html

09/02/11, 08:29	#2
Hanka Senior Member Datum registrace: Nov 2003 Location: Kadaň Příspěvků: 1622	Hi Marcy, officiall english version does not exist.

10/02/11, 10:13	#11
michaelundinaeichhorn Senior Member Datum registrace: Sep 2003 Location: Bad Dürkheim Příspěvků: 2249	Daiva is right. Even in 2002 the information was quite limited. You get more information if you work yourself through this website. Michael

10/02/11, 11:19	#12
Koos Member Datum registrace: Dec 2003 Příspěvků: 731	Hello The book of K. Hartl we have translated at first into the Dutch language. After that we have let made it into the German version and we have worked also on the English version. This took more time than we have expected but now it is ready and the book will be available at least at the end of this month. Greetings, Letty de Graaff Kennel van Goverwelle www.graaff-goverwelle.nl

10/02/11, 11:48	#14
André Junior Member Datum registrace: Nov 2004 Location: Portugal Příspěvků: 76	CZ Univ? Which univ exactly?

10/02/11, 12:55	#15
elf Member Datum registrace: Oct 2006 Příspěvků: 766	I though of this one: http://www.fappz.dev.webcore.czu.cz/en/?r=2382 Would be nice to gather somewhere Universities working on CSV, and gather publications in one thread. __________________ http://www.amicale-chien-loup-tcheco...m/csvstat.html

11/02/11, 10:54	#19
hanninadina Senior Member Datum registrace: Nov 2003 Příspěvků: 2466	@Elf are there genetics research information from the University in Czech done for czechoslovakian wolfdogs? Do you have the direct link. Or why are you refering to them? Thanks Christian PS: in first short look, I could not find a word about the csw.