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Health and nutrition How to feed a Wolfdog, information about dog food, how to vaccinate and what to do if the dog gets ill.... |
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ir Brukne
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And what are the reasons of these moving problems? Are they because of anatomical structure? Or is it a disease?
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Can be wrong anathomy, physical inactivity or diseases DM, Spondylosis, Ataxia...
But true is if we take all carriers away from breeding we can have more serious illness.
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At the moment, the witch-hunt to watch following: There are almost only used male dogs with N/N.
Here again the implications for breeding: Maybe about 25% of dogs have DM / DM. Then about 20% of these will go out of the breed. Maybe about 50% of dogs have DM/N. Then maybe only 10% of these will go out of the breed (mostly males) The remaining 25% of all dogs go into breed, but is often taken (mostly males) Without the shift to dogs with N/N, we already have a loss of about 30% of all dogs. Then the shift to the N/N -> We have a loss of between 20 to 40% will have the genetic diversity,… if it goes on! This is just an example. Everyone can expect for yourself.
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99 % of the owners of my puppies... so it is ok. I just only told them "I made the test, and i know i am one of the only one who do it... so the results are there... Which warrantly would you have with the most of breeder whom don't do the test ?" Quote:
The jealousy is, i suppose, the main reason that people give you a bad reputation, and put you in blacklist... even you know you work hard and in the good way. "Make you duty to the breed as honest people would make it...", a safe way to think for me. Quote:
I am experimenting some problems with N/N puppies, very weak... I would highly prefer it is carrier... if better health of course !!
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Chee'Yr-Wôck dit Mogwai de la Mollynière de Lo'Scale : N/N
(Merci à Carmen et Alessio, d'avoir accepté de faire tester leur chien....) Je suis contente pour vous ! Cordialement |
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test results
Pituitary Dwarfism / Genetischer Nachweis auf Zwergenwuchs - PCR Aslan vom sturmwind Ergebnis: Genotyp: N/N (free) Cyntia spod dumbiera Ergebnis: Genotyp: N/N (free) Chyez Ddey de la Mollyniere de LoScale Ergebnis: Genotyp: N/N (free) Chogan von keschla Ergebnis: Genotyp carrier Chenoa von Keschla Ergebnis: Genotyp carrier
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test results Pituitary Dwarfism Genotyp: N/Dw (carrier) |
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Bonjour Lorry, je suis très déçue par ces nouvelles, cela ne signifie pas que Rambo va être malade ...
![]() Tous ses enfants sont au moins porteurs, mais ne semble pas l'être par les résultats publiés ici .... ou il ya une erreur sur Rambo? N'est pas possible, par exemple Mogwai, Chye Z 'Ddey de la Mollyniere de Lo'Scale, Ckaa Mah-Loup de la Mollyniere de Lo'Scale ne peuvent être exemptés. Vérifiez à nouveau le résultat. Cordialement. Hello Lorry, I am very disappointed by this news, this does not mean that Rambo will be sick ... All his children are at least carriers, but seems not to be so by the results published here .... or there is an error on Rambo? It is not possible, for example Mogwai, Chye Z 'Ddey de la Mollyniere de Lo'Scale, Ckaa' Mah-Loup de la Mollyniere de Lo'Scale can not be exempt. Check again the result. Regards. |
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Ayant reçu le papier hier soir, je suis encore sous le choc de la mauvaise nouvelle et j'avoue que je n'ai même pas réfléchi ni réagi au bien fondé de ce résultat .... Votre raisonnement est en effet logique et du coup, je suis encore plus troublée et j'avoue ne plus trop comprendre .... Pour ce qui est des résultats de Mogwai et Ckaa'Loup-Mah, effectivement ils sont annoncés N/N sur WD .... Je n'ai pas vu les résultats de mes propres yeux, mais je n'ai aucune raison de douter des dires des propriétaires respectifs .... Par contre, Chye Z'Ddey est N/N au niveau nanisme, mais n'a jamais été annoncée N/N au niveau MD .....(c'est sa mère Cinthia Spod Dumbiera qui est N/N) Les tests ADN de Mogwai, (frère de portée de Chye Z'Dey - mariage de Cinthia Spod Dumbiera x Rambo CW ) certifient que les parents sont bien ceux annoncés .... (je peux scanner le résultat d'Antagène si besoin) Je vais me tourner vers les laboratoires Laboklin pour savoir s'ils peuvent avoir une marge d'erreur ....Et recommencer le cas échéant, mais de toute façon, ça ne changera pas la donne : Mon élevage est foutu ! Translation: Having received the pappers yesterday, im still under the shock of the bad news and I confess that I haven't even tought neither responded to the validity of this result. Your reasoning is logical and sudden, im even more confused and I confess dont understand even more. About the results of Mogwai and Ckaa'loup-Mah, they are actually announced as N/N in Wolfdog.org, I haven't see the results with my own eyes but I have no reason to doubt of the owners' statement. However, Chye Z'Ddey is free of Dwarfism and has never been tested to DM (is his mother, Cintia Spod Dumbiera, which is N/N). The DNA test of Mogwai (brother of Z'dey Chye - mate of Cinthia Spod Dumbiera and Rambo Crying Wolf) certify that the parents are exactly the ones announced (I can scan the results if you whish) I will contact the labs of Laboklin to see if they can have an margin of error and do it again is necessary, but anyway it will not change the situation, my kennel is... is... do have this problem ( ![]() Last edited by Nebulosa; 09-04-2011 at 02:52. Reason: translation |
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