Géméhtouès des Loups de l'Ostrevent dite Edora

[hekate]

My femelle baby



And 3years old


You can see the evolution of his ears
http://www.wolfdog.org/drupal/fr/gal...ubcat/1/10295/

So for you she isn't a pure to?

[admin]

Originally Posted by hekate

My femelle baby



And 3years old


You can see the evolution of his ears
http://www.wolfdog.org/drupal/fr/gal...ubcat/1/10295/

So for you she isn't a pure to?

I can say that the puppy do not look like Crying Wolf. Maybe there is something special - something wrong - in the mothers line? By Yvanka de New Flame? Maybe she is responsible for the totally different look of the dogs? Are you sure that breeder de New flame do not have also Saarloos?

But for sure something is not ok. You will see when the puppies of your female are born if they will be as untypical as the puppies of Demoniac.

I get messages with links to other photos and I must say there are more such very strange cases.

This dog

can not be born of Merlin and Ossa. Never such dog was born by Crying Wolf and it has no build and look of CW dogs. And the puppies of this female are even more untypical:

It is black colour which NEVER appear in this line (NEVER appear in whole Slovakia). It is colour which you can only find by American crosses. Never by CsW. It is for sure not pure Czechoslovakian Wolfdog.
Here you can see it better:

such color is disqualification for Czechoslovakian Wolfdogs. And can be a prove for you that it is not purebree line. I must say also in the whole litter of Demoniak Diamond and C'Pouchka there is not even one dog which is a Czechoslovakian Wolfdog.
Please do not say that are not mixes of something.
The same is here

- this dog look like male but is a female. Such masculine heavy head are very typical for american crosses.

[hekate]

I don't know New flame. I'm sure my femelle is a daughter of Volos because I have ADN test.

Look this femelle, she have big ears too and is not the same blood



http://www.wolfdog.org/drupal/fr/gal...ubcat/1/11738/

[admin]

Originally Posted by hekate

Look this femelle, she have big ears too and is not the same blood

EXACTLY - it is not the same blood. Many dogs from the Czech lines have huge ears - but they have the form of the ears of German Shepherd Dogs. It is common fault there.

But you do not have such ears by Slovakian lines. And never by very inbreed dogs from Crying Wolf.

The differences are much more visible in the color - you NEVER will get black dogs like the puppies of C'Pouschka because such color do not exist by CsW. There was never born a puppy like the one which I showed.

The whole problem is not that there are some faults - there are many untypical CsW. But the problem is that the fault appear by the lines where such faults dog not exist and there are many faults which never exist by Czecoslovakian Wolfdogs. There are more untypical dogs born by C'Pouschka than in the whole history of the breed...

[hekate]

Look this pup, he is frome Crying Wolf



http://www.wolfdog.org/drupal/fr/gal...ubcat/1/13094/

And it's the same blood them my femelle and Diamon

[hekate]

Look this femelle



http://www.wolfdog.org/fra/dbase/d10673.html

Is grand mother is Yvanka, maybe the dark color is from her....

[hekate]

Originally Posted by Admin

I can say that the puppy do not look like Crying Wolf.

Yes maybe baby she don't look like crying wolf but adulte yes

With Volos

[admin]

Here I post some photos of American Wolfdogs (husky, malamute, gsd, wolf crosses). You can see that the look EXACTLY like the MIXES from France:

(look the black color)







This one is a Malamute-Tundra Wolf cross:



Looks exactly like a copy of Fantastik Wolweryne de la Louve Blanche. Right?

[hekate]

Young yes it's yhe same color but now is more clear.

Look the femelle of Martial, she is very dark too. She look like a lot has the last photo




Désolé Martial ce n'est pas contre toi mais j'avais Deyma en tete comme chien foncé et a cette heure pas la motivation de chercher dans la base de donnée un autre chien foncé.

[admin]

Originally Posted by hekate

Young yes it's yhe same color but now is more clear.

Look the femelle of Martial, she is very dark too. She look like a lot has the last photo

This color come from Czech line and from Bora Mabosa. There are some dark grey dogs but even there are not solid black like by puppies of C'Pouschka and Demoniac.

But we are talking about Demoniac and C'Pouschka - there is NO Bora Mabosa there. All dogs are for all generations grey or brown-grey. There is no explanation for this black pigmentation. Especially that the paintings are typical for American Wolfdogs and not CsW.

[hekate]

Fragon is a son of Yarl Yanatos and Elia de new flame so the same blood to Diamon because Yanatos is the alf brother than Volos and de father to Elia is the brother than Yvanka. And all the tyme you this blood you have this type of dog.

[magalie]

Originally Posted by Admin

The same is here

- this dog look like male but is a female. Such masculine heavy head are very typical for american crosses.

Why say this:
fulkane is not a female but a male, a problem in the database

[martiou07]

Bonjour Mag,

il n'est pas dit que ta femelle est un male mais que sa tête est masculine et typique d'un croisement.

[indiananous]

Parce que j'ai lancé le sujet sur les chiens français, il n'y a pas de raison que je ne lance pas cette photo du chien "CSV" qui se trouve maintenant au Brésil.

Futur propriétaire vous avez donc le choix.

Vous pouvez choisir le Mix Saarloos, le Mix loup ou le Mix chien nordique
Vous remarquerez le blanc "typique" du CSV au niveau des pattes !!!

Et il auront tous des pédigrée et des tests ADN

Tout cela pour dire que la France n'est pas seule sur ce coup !!!!



Rectification
Je change mon message.Apparament cela sera une "blague". Ce chien ne serai pas pédigrée mais le message aurait été lancé par rapport à ce post. Il est navrant que l'on puisse en rire

[Watchwolf]

De toute façon je ne pense pas que les frontières ont un quelconque pouvoir sur ce genre pratique.

[indiananous]

Si Jonathan, c'est comme les nuages toxiques, le pouvoir des frontières est tels qu'il y a juste certains pays touchés en fonction des affinitées et d'autres pas

[magalie]

Originally Posted by martiou07

Bonjour Mag,

il n'est pas dit que ta femelle est un male mais que sa tête est masculine et typique d'un croisement.

oui j avais compris ,c 'était de l humour