(Almost) white puppies by "od Uhoste" kennel (problems with Galiba CW?)

[Hanka]

The pups last year had the same colour like mine and like pups from history what I wrote you. I will not send you photos of other pups, I never resend photos of dogs which are not mine. I am not you.
I know what color has 99% of population, I have these pups too. And????
I tell you, light colour is not some mix, but colour, which is in genes of our breed.
I am not worry about this colour.
I will not write you some names of other dogs. I will not help you in "witch hunting".
First learn, later you can write something...........

[*Satu]

one week old



7weeks old (red collar)


and same puppy 6month old


whitout CW genes...

[z Peronówki]

Originally Posted by *Satu

one week old
(...)
7weeks old (red collar)
(...)
and same puppy 6month old
(...)
whitout CW genes...

It is exactly what I mean - even very ligh CsW are dark when they are born....

[z Peronówki]

Originally Posted by Hanka

The pups last year had the same colour like mine and like pups from history what I wrote you.

One more time:

1) What is the PEDIGREE NAME of this female pictured on photos
I really hope that you didn't ublished us story about a man who took GSD-cross and called in Wolfdog....

For other people: In Czech Republic the name for GSD and not pure GSD crosses is "vlcak"... So many people who have GSD similar crosses describe them as "Wolfdogs" - here you can see more "Wolfdogs" for sale:
http://zvirata.bazos.cz/inzerat/1180...daji-domov.php
http://zvirata.bazos.cz/inzerat/1176...k-9-mesicu.php
http://zvirata.bazos.cz/inzerat/1154...eho-vlcaka.php
http://zvirata.bazos.cz/inzerat/1106...ita-bez-PP.php
WE have also many "wolfdogs" in Poland. In every animal shelter you can find some of them...

Originally Posted by Hanka

I will not send you photos of other pups, I never resend photos of dogs which are not mine. I am not you.

Hanka, stop the senseless private accusation and start finally to talk about FACTS! And:

2) Show me photos of YOUNG puppies which are so white...
I'm not a beginner who never saw a CsW puppy - you are not able to deceive me as you can do with some CsW beginners....

I repeat it one more time: CsW are born dark. Even dogs which are white-grey when they are adult. First later they change the colour.
So:
YES - light - sometimes almost white puppies are normal.
NO - ligh - sometimes almost white new born and very young puppies are NOT normal.

[z Peronówki]

Originally Posted by Hanka

The pups last year had the same colour like mine and like pups from history what I wrote you. I will not send you photos of other pups, I never resend photos of dogs which are not mine. I am not you.
I know what color has 99% of population, I have these pups too. And????
I tell you, light colour is not some mix, but colour, which is in genes of our breed.
I am not worry about this colour.
I will not write you some names of other dogs. I will not help you in "witch hunting".
First learn, later you can write something...........

OK, Hanka. I see I will not convince you... No wonder.

But I have something else for you - words which you can read here on forum - written by a person who is CW-dogs owner and who have to sterylise her dogs because of the red puppies born in the litters:

Originally Posted by Lorry

Je ne vois pas en quoi c'est un rêve d'avoir acheté 3 chiens, dont on à la preuve incontestable qu'il y a eu des croisements dans les lignées, sans pour autant savoir avec certitude à quel niveau exact de la lignée ... ....

"Now I see it was not a dream to buy three dogs [From Crying Wolf kennel], which are the undeniable proof that there are crossings, without knowing for sure at what exact level of the line...."

(I hope someone will translate the whole Lorry's answer)

[z Peronówki]

And last but not least for the end (for Hanka & co):

I DO NOT FIGHT AGAINST your dogs! You are as breeders are not a problem for me....

BUT...

There are more and more proofs showing that at least some of the CW dogs are crosses. And their offsprings live (and are or will be used for breeding) in Czech Republic, Slovakia, Germany and also Poland. Populations which were so far free on insincere breeders and dogs with fake pedigrees.
Now it can change - not because the people changed but because it seems they are victims of one incompetent breeder. There is the possibility that they breed mixes without even knowing it....

Now it is still not too late to stop it - it will be not a big problem to take few dogs (mixes) out of breeding. But if we leave it and in few years the dogs (their "lines") will start to cross and there will be red, Saarloos alike puppies born - it will be already too late to make anything against it because there will be hundreds dogs with the "affected" blood and it will be hard to take them out "painlessly".

[Vaiva]

First of all breeders should stop using males from CW lines Maybe this will make people become more concerned about how pure their dogs really are. And I see no reason not to skip one heat of a female wih doubtfull blood - just till everything becomes clear.

I also understand, how terrible it is to understand, that your breeding female can be a mix, especially when she has children and grandchildren allready Even thinking about such a possibility takes my breath away Still, the right thing is to evaluate all the possibilities and to check twice if there are any doubts about that...