Demoniak de la Louve Blanche

[SARKA]

Originally Posted by koomak

No it's me who will not give you puppies :-) :-) :-) :-)
you do not know for Ariminium? She asked me two babies, one male and one female! it proposed to double the price for the first choice! ! :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-)

Questo è il messaggio scritto da Filippo per Sophie su facebook
"11 ore fa
Monica Gambini

• Sophie m'a demandé qui je Sarka vos animaux de compagnie, vos chiens sont dans l'amour, et en particulier Guerya et Graal. Je ne m'inquiète pas si ils CLC - MIX ou les loups, j'ai déjà une femelle qui m'a vendu Sarka et j'adore cette race et le loup. Je suis désolé pour ce malentendu. Je ne suis pas un éleveur de mon travail et mon mari est un constructeur. Nous vivons à la campagne en Toscane, si vous venez en Italie sont heureux de vous accueillir. La Femme de la CLC (Wapi) que nous avons est pour moi et mon mari comme un fils, est notre ombre. J'espère que vous pourrez comprendre. Désolé pour le français, j'ai traduit avec google.
  Cordialement."
  

Sophie asked me who I. Sarka said me that your animal are bery beatiful and in particular Guerya and Graal.For me is not important if this dog are CLC-MIX or wolf because I have just one femele from Sarka and I like CLC and wolf too.
I'm sorry for this misurdestanding .I'm not one breeder and is not my work and my husband is a constructor.We live in Tuscany in rural and if you want to come in Italy you are my guest.My femele CLC (Wapi) is for me and my husband like daughter.I hope that you can understand.




I confirm that Filippo asked me two puppies from Doz and Demoniak of Sophie only because filippo like this animal and he promise me don't use never in reproduction,because Filippo is Arimminum Extra Edition owner's but he have official agreement with me and in this agreement is written that Extra Edition will be cover only one male that I will choice.Filippo like my opinion in breeding.
About double price I can guarantee that Filippo was prepared to pay for time normal price for the first choice. But now Filippo confirm me that he does not want puppies free price too .

[koomak]

Hello Sarka

First
I can not take reservations, I have many reservations already, so I do not sell my babies to breeders, families only! !
2nd
You are a liar, you have me phone a few times! ! I telephone my statement that proves it! ! You phone to Jessica several times too! !! You asked a male for your customer and a female for you! ! The price does not matter, the principal was that you have the first choice!!!!
So you asked the secret!!!! I have betrayed your trust! ! You want to know why I have betrayed your trust? Because you are a friend of Margo and Daiva! ! They told me you wanted a baby for DNA testing! ! Sarka why? Why? You do not like animals. .
3rd
also all italiy know that you phone Suski has to have the same blood as Doz last week!!!

Whats happened Sarka, why you are a liar , you are afraid ?

[z Peronówki]

Originally Posted by koomak

So you asked the secret!!!! I have betrayed your trust! ! You want to know why I have betrayed your trust? Because you are a friend of Margo and Daiva! ! They told me you wanted a baby for DNA testing! ! Sarka why? Why? You do not like animals. .

Sophie, I never spoke about it with you. In the fact I do not speak with you neither by phone nor by email. Please show me the proofs - you have my permit to publish our email? (chat?) exchange here on the forum for public view. Because I know nothing like this ever existed.
So please be so king and explain me the whole situation. I do not want to be a puppet in this theater.

[yukidomari]

Originally Posted by koomak

They told me you wanted a baby for DNA testing! !

Great idea, and why not?

[wolfin]

Originally Posted by koomak

Because you are a friend of Margo and Daiva! ! They told me you wanted a baby for DNA testing! ! Sarka why? Why? You do not like animals. .
3rd
also all italiy know that you phone Suski has to have the same blood as Doz last week!!!

Whats happened Sarka, why you are a liar , you are afraid ?

sory but you my dear are now liar- I know Sarka like a good breeder but we not are a friends.
I think she very like animals, but not love a lie and falshing
p.s. I too give a permision for publishing this texts about your conspiracy theory

I go to buy a popcorn

[SARKA]

Sophie, is there any problem having the DNA of descendants of Demoniak, Doz and Vendetta x Mephisto? Why should I be afraid?

[koomak]

Ok .. Because you block my words on this forum and can t speack Sophie post for me ... I have some mails from
Sarka who want from my kennel our blood line ( Volos / Dracula and demoniak ) she explain that it was a co owning with some friends ... After i was close to Sophie when she propose to buy 2 puppies from us to dog show and breeding ... Strange file not ?? For bad blood line famous kennel write to us ... Of course our puppies are not use in bad intentions and for that I explain to Sophie that she can dream all the nigth .. Philippot or anybody else can dream on ... Regards lamb of this forum ... Frank capiez ( if some need copy of mails I receive I can give ) money money money ..

[hekate]

Message from Franck, because he steal can't post

Waouuuu so much Bad words in this topic ...really you have a real big problem ... For information in France we have an exam to have the pedigree and breed with our dogs ..and the juge accept or not only if the dog is in the standard ...if for you have a wolfish type is not the standard shame on you because it s the standard ... Nothing else are in my blood line than what is wrote on pedigree ... Sorry if you don t have same result with your marriage .... Margo never use same blood and never crying wolf the most wolfish dog in Europe with passo del lupo ...after it s your choie and don t blâme if in few tzars your smaller smaller dog arrive ... Use allways sale Male Like eligo don t give a good example for you Margo who want give best chance to our breed ... Money money money ... Perhaps you can cross him with poodle ... I can give you some French kennel adress ... ) best regards drama forum ... For your information if few people like to be manipulate like lamb in this marketing PERON ....not me ... !!!" God save this queen " but not me !!! Best of the best for you ... Frank capiez ... (big honor to be so important in few moment in tchecoslovaquian wolfdog world )

[wolfin]

Originally Posted by hekate

Message from Franck

gosh this make my day )))))) zero info from genetic, linebreed and breed hystory.

[martiou07]

*In France, it is exact that we have the confirmation.
*Only this confirmation is relatively easily made.
*It is not at all a quality security at least in this race.

It is of no use to speak about the confirmation or still about the championship. It is moreover very hypocritical, I am sure not to be the only Frenchman to have heard(understood) some comments of judges on the edges of the rings of exhibition....

To return to the subject there, yes Demoniak is a champion of France, it is I am sure, and me includes him(it) a very big pride for its owner, but for other judges, these atypical dogs born in his breeding are far from being a representative of the race....

Now we can speak for a long time about all this here, regrettably it will arrange nothing....

The only thing which reassures me, it is the experience which I have of the life, sooner or later the truth will come out .....

[z Peronówki]

Originally Posted by hekate

Waouuuu so much Bad words in this topic ...really you have a real big problem ...

Yes, you right. I have problem with it. As many people do. Not personally - I will not use any of those mongrels. But there is something bigger: you are destroying this breed. And soon or later the breed will get banned in France because of you and your illegal wolf crosses which can be really dangerous. I hope only that this ban will not spread in Europe.

Originally Posted by hekate

For information in France we have an exam to have the pedigree and breed with our dogs ..

Which exam... a DOG SHOW. Judgement written by a judge. I can arrange a paper for you from a judge that you are breeding sheeps....
In short: don't make me laugh.
We do not need exams but DNA tests.

Originally Posted by hekate

Nothing else are in my blood line than what is wrote on pedigree ... Sorry if you don t have same result with your marriage ....

Thanks God I do not have the same results as you... Because I do not cross my dogs with mixes. Thanks to this you can see by all of them Jolly (and not the 'neighbors' mixes as it is the case by you).

Originally Posted by hekate

Margo never use same blood and never crying wolf the most wolfish dog in Europe with passo del lupo ...

Frank, do me a favour: read finally the breed standard.... Read a bit about the breed.

Originally Posted by hekate

Money money money ..

Yes, you right. But not about me but about you. Lets see who is cheating the pedigrees. Suski who never bred any wolfish dog. Passo del Lupo who has in Italy huge competition of much better breeders than he is and because of it he had problems with selling his puppies. Now you - in France where there are already serious breeders who have pure Wolfdogs and who you are not able to defeat.
All of you would be never able to sell the amount of puppies which you produce. Especially that with your lack of knowledge about this breed you would never be able to breed any wolfish dog.

Now we can read that the people offer you double prices. In the hard time when other French breeders sell really nice puppies for normal amount of money. You see... people want to pay double prices for dogs with fake pedigrees (and they want to pay such huge amount of money because the EXACTLY know that the dogs are not pure but crosses ). It is the only reason why your business is running and other businessmen who want to make money with dogs are joining you.
But remember: one day the 'purity DNA test for Wolfdogs' will be done and all of these deceived people will come to you and ask compensations. Because you didn't sell them Czechoslovakian Wolfdogs but mongrels. And it apply to whole 'Mixes mafia' in Europe.

Originally Posted by hekate

Perhaps you can cross him with poodle ... I can give you some French kennel adress ... )

Please do it - post here the list of French kennels which you do not like and who do not like you and this what you are doing. In this way we will have a list of serious French breeders posted here....

Now serious:
I see you decided to lie till the end - it is your decision. But we know the truth, you and me know exactly that those dogs are crosses and you breed dogs with fake pedigrees. We know what is told next to the show ring, in the phone calls and in the private talks. You are mixing your dogs with mixes and it is well known. For this reason you do really not need to speak with me - you will not convince me because I know that you are a liar. But you can still try to convince some poor people on the French forum. Maybe they will still believe in your words. I will not (you know it). And it is boring (although also somehow funny) to read your assurance that the dogs have real parents written in the pedigrees.