Demoniak de la Louve Blanche

LadyJessy · 18-03-2012, 17:33

I read only now ...
Margo, Furya and Frangon aren't children of Diamond! It 'a database error!

You took a picture of Gunner ok .. but you've chosen the worst!

Now much has changed ...

I do not understand where you see the Saarloosm or American wd!!!

Good day to you all ...

Ah.. it's true, my dog is shy.. and? Where is the problem?
Many dogs are shy, in Italy there are many ... I do not understand where the problem!

jefta · 18-03-2012, 17:38

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Originally Posted by LadyJessy

I do not understand where you see the Saarloosm or American wd!!!

On first foto in head expression

LadyJessy · 18-03-2012, 17:47

.....it is true .... are just equal!

tupacs2legs · 18-03-2012, 18:06

I am new to the breed,but even I see saarloos in that picture too.... And 'what's the problem with shy dogs'? It is not typical or desirable in the csv's standard! So shy dogs shouldn't be bred from

LadyJessy · 18-03-2012, 18:22

Of Course! It is not desirable to have shy dogs! But today we find many more shy dogs rather than brave unfortunately!
The breed was created by crossing a Wolf and a German Shepherd ... Consequently, at the beginning we couldn't expect brave dogs! We change the nature over the years and we're still doing ... But I repeat, there are now many more shy dogs!
Maybe in the future they will all be brave!

michaelundinaeichhorn · 18-03-2012, 18:47

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Originally Posted by LadyJessy

Of Course! It is not desirable to have shy dogs! But today we find many more shy dogs rather than brave unfortunately!
The breed was created by crossing a Wolf and a German Shepherd ... Consequently, at the beginning we couldn't expect brave dogs! We change the nature over the years and we're still doing ... But I repeat, there are now many more shy dogs!
Maybe in the future they will all be brave!

Sorry, but this is simply not true.

ArImInIuM · 18-03-2012, 19:03

and again in france .....

http://www.wolfdog.org/site/fr/dbase/d/6299

is not "louve blanche" but is very CWD .............

LadyJessy · 18-03-2012, 19:14

What is not true Michael?
I know a lot of Csw and many more of this are shy...
In their home are good but in expo or at the street are so shy... This is not god it't true! But is really!

For example ... The attack on the sleeve. I'm not an expert in this field but a friend explained to me that the dog must enter for the first time in a "field" and when person come out the dog should attack or otherwise not show signs of fear. Most people train the dog to do this action. This doesn't make the brave dog, but you get used to do and train a specific action.

The Czechoslovakian wolfdog isn't born brave, not usually ...
We will train you to be!

ArImInIuM · 18-03-2012, 18:53

you can proceed to the dark color of wolf dog

http://www.wolfdog.org/site/fr/dbase/d/9634

Namtar z Peronówki

and

http://www.wolfdog.org/site/fr/dbase/d/15715

but we never said that in these marriages there was rewetting ..........

yukidomari · 18-03-2012, 19:13

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Originally Posted by LadyJessy

Of Course! It is not desirable to have shy dogs! But today we find many more shy dogs rather than brave unfortunately!
The breed was created by crossing a Wolf and a German Shepherd ... Consequently, at the beginning we couldn't expect brave dogs! We change the nature over the years and we're still doing ... But I repeat, there are now many more shy dogs!
Maybe in the future they will all be brave!

If your country has a problem with a majority of shy dogs then I encourage more breeders in your country to breed from dogs with correct temperament. There won't magically be more dogs with correct temperaments in the future if everyone breeds from shy dogs. It's common sense. ..

Rona · 18-03-2012, 20:23

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Originally Posted by LadyJessy

Of Course! It is not desirable to have shy dogs! But today we find many more shy dogs rather than brave unfortunately!
!

Ina is right! I know lots of normal, well socialized vlcaks that aren't shy at all, and just a couple shy ones.

Your vision of the breed must be really seriously destorted if you make a statement like this!

Such claims only confirm that something is wrong with breeding, training, selection...

Haven't you read the breed standard?

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Originally Posted by michaelundinaeichhorn

If you see so many shy dogs in your place you should go to other places and look how the dogs of the same origin behave there.

Agree 100%!

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Originally Posted by michaelundinaeichhorn

...how the dogs of the same origin behave there. If they behave different it´s a problem of people not dogs.

Well, it might also be a problem of dogs... if the origin is the same only on paper, it wouldn't work...

michaelundinaeichhorn · 18-03-2012, 20:35

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Originally Posted by Rona

Well, it might also be a problem of dogs... if the origin is the same only on paper, it wouldn't work...

But would be another proof.

Ina

Juri Z.P. · 18-03-2012, 20:38

Hy Jessica

,
you remember Juri

, last year - in Italy?,
that's normal Standard...!
You remember what you tell me, Juri a very open dog - this is normal-Standard!

We see us soon

Mariana

wolfin · 18-03-2012, 20:43

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Originally Posted by LadyJessy

I read only now ...

I do not understand where you see the Saarloosm or American wd!!!

In next time when we meet I will give you a glasses, because you have problem with a eyes

18-03-2012, 17:33	#1
LadyJessy Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Collesalvetti (Li) Posts: 430	I read only now ... Margo, Furya and Frangon aren't children of Diamond! It 'a database error! You took a picture of Gunner ok .. but you've chosen the worst! Now much has changed ... I do not understand where you see the Saarloosm or American wd!!! Good day to you all ... Ah.. it's true, my dog is shy.. and? Where is the problem? Many dogs are shy, in Italy there are many ... I do not understand where the problem! __________________ Jessy Chiba Gunner & Company Last edited by LadyJessy; 18-03-2012 at 17:36.

18-03-2012, 17:47	#3
LadyJessy Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Collesalvetti (Li) Posts: 430	.....it is true .... are just equal! __________________ Jessy Chiba Gunner & Company

18-03-2012, 18:22	#5
LadyJessy Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Collesalvetti (Li) Posts: 430	Of Course! It is not desirable to have shy dogs! But today we find many more shy dogs rather than brave unfortunately! The breed was created by crossing a Wolf and a German Shepherd ... Consequently, at the beginning we couldn't expect brave dogs! We change the nature over the years and we're still doing ... But I repeat, there are now many more shy dogs! Maybe in the future they will all be brave! __________________ Jessy Chiba Gunner & Company

18-03-2012, 19:03	#7
ArImInIuM Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 762	and again in france ..... http://www.wolfdog.org/site/fr/dbase/d/6299 is not "louve blanche" but is very CWD ............. __________________

18-03-2012, 19:14	#8
LadyJessy Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Collesalvetti (Li) Posts: 430	What is not true Michael? I know a lot of Csw and many more of this are shy... In their home are good but in expo or at the street are so shy... This is not god it't true! But is really! For example ... The attack on the sleeve. I'm not an expert in this field but a friend explained to me that the dog must enter for the first time in a "field" and when person come out the dog should attack or otherwise not show signs of fear. Most people train the dog to do this action. This doesn't make the brave dog, but you get used to do and train a specific action. The Czechoslovakian wolfdog isn't born brave, not usually ... We will train you to be! __________________ Jessy Chiba Gunner & Company

18-03-2012, 18:06	#4
tupacs2legs rookie Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: london Posts: 320	I am new to the breed,but even I see saarloos in that picture too.... And 'what's the problem with shy dogs'? It is not typical or desirable in the csv's standard! So shy dogs shouldn't be bred from

18-03-2012, 18:53	#9
ArImInIuM Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 762	you can proceed to the dark color of wolf dog http://www.wolfdog.org/site/fr/dbase/d/9634 Namtar z Peronówki and http://www.wolfdog.org/site/fr/dbase/d/15715 but we never said that in these marriages there was rewetting .......... __________________

18-03-2012, 20:38	#13
Juri Z.P. Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 146	Hy Jessica , you remember Juri, last year - in Italy?, that's *normal* Standard...! You remember what you tell me, Juri a very open dog - this is normal-Standard! We see us soon Mariana