where you keep a wolfdog during winter: outdoor or in house.

Angelika · 14-12-2012, 00:55

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Originally Posted by jefta

She sleeps with the rest of the dogs? It must be cold alone for so small puppy

I absolutely agree - very, very cold for a small CsW puppy

deocamdata · 21-12-2012, 12:51

My CSW has allays been outside.
Last winter was few days with -21 and there was not any kind of problems.
Now together with Karlos (my CSW) also outside I have a Malinois 7 months old.
They sleep separately but during the day they are together and playing all the day ...
So ... my opinion is the the dog is exactly like you grow it ... That doesn't mean that a very small puppy can be left outside in a very cold weather.

Rona · 22-12-2012, 03:40

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Originally Posted by deocamdata

My CSW has allays been outside.

So you don't know how much fun you're losing

They are such great room mates!

AMERICANI · 22-12-2012, 07:53

Considering the fact I have 9, I rotate them out. Our winters really have nothing on places like Poland

So, the cold really isn't an issue. As far as the consideration of the nature within ourselves. as well as our dogs, the select ones for the time come in, but follow rules. The bond grows so much stronger when you maximize interaction with them. 9 is too many, and 3 are actually select for placing with other families. I don't have kids, don't closely interact with anyone with kids, or (for the moment) intend on having any. I relate my "pack" structure to the military, which is the lifestyle I am most accustomed to. My dogs don't sleep on the bed, they don't beg for food at the table, and they sit until released before welcoming guests or going out. I feel horrible that I can't spend 100% of my time with each one 100% of the time. CsVs are not wolves, but they do have more of the innate requirement to have a role within the pack than most dogs.

Rona · 22-12-2012, 09:57

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Originally Posted by AMERICANI

Considering the fact I have 9, I rotate them out. Our winters really have nothing on places like Poland

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I thought we were talking about vlcaks in Romania?

As far as I know, the vast majority of Polish owners keep their vlcaks indoors, and it has nothing to do with climate. We simply enjoy the company of our dogs. They are part of the family/pack

Of course it doesn't mean the dog should not obey the commands and leave the couch or room every time when told to do so.

BTW I've always found it hard to understand how it was possible that a vlcak escaped from its home/pack. I can imagine this now, after having read how some pups are brought up.

Tana · 21-01-2013, 20:35

Greetings, wow so many answers

... In all af them i saw one thing:what a lot of people believe about their dogs, I saw a lot of human desires and hopes about their dogs. Nobody answered to the simply question, why the wolfdog was created in fact by the army and how much is their dog close to the natural way to live of their ancestors ? Is nothing about their hair inside the house and nothing about their POOP.

Rona you know so much about our country or dogs,but in fact you do not know nothing. You presume everything and that is wrong. You will tell me Rona, that a wolfdog is like a cat when he want to poop?

Wolfdog is a dog full of energy, but nobody tells nothing about the fact that they are some cute little "tasmanian devils" when they are small. They find a great pleasure in chewing everything they can reach. You can't relax too much when you know you can't let this dog home alone and to expect to find everything right when you come home.

I am sorry but the truth is that this dog is made to be outside where he can explore and behave like a dog not like a cat and where are not so many restrictions like inside. I agree, the best is to go with your dog in wilderness, is where she/he is really happy. This is a second proof that wolfdog is happy outside the room , the house, even the garden can be too small for him. So i will keep the dog outside my house all the time. I was just curious to see how many did the same. Romania is not Syberia, the weather is like in all other central european countries so she will be fine outside. Now she has 5 months and she is outside for almost 2 months and half. My oppinion is that she will be more healthy and tough in long terms than a dog living inside. e will judge. I have 3 dogs with Tana and all of them live outside in the winter and play. No human can play with a dog like dogs play with each other so i think all are just fine. A nice day to you all

vila · 21-01-2013, 20:54

You should show some respect to a person with as much experience with Vlcaks as Rona. Unfortunately accidents with poop happen, but if you are unable to teach your dog house rules, maybe the answer isn't to lock the dogs outside the house but maybe you shouldn't own dogs? You do know that you must take the dogs for walks right? So they don't poop and pee indoor. Sounds like the big yard is just an excuse? ... And don't you even for one moment start to argue the history of the breed, because you obviously don't know much. Sure Vlcaks were created for a military purpose, it was an experiment but unfortunately that experiment failed, they didn't create the dog they wanted. It wasn't a disaster but they didn't know realistically what to expect. A Vlcak is far more a family dog than it is an unaffectionate robotic winter machine. You asked for advice, most people said their Vlcak is part of the family, part of the house and in some cases even part of the bed

you go ahead and keep them out, probably the dogs will do just fine... I just don't understand how you can have big dogs and be bothered by some poop? ...And your dogs don't understand either.

avgrunn · 21-01-2013, 21:03

Well, so I guess my vlcak has no idea what he was created for

, coz after some time spent outside he always knocks to our front window to let him in and then he greets us and lays very close to us.
He is a dog who prefers to be with us than alone outside.
Proof:

That is how he prefers to sleep, close to his human not outside

Rona · 22-01-2013, 00:12

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Originally Posted by Tana

You will tell me Rona, that a wolfdog is like a cat when he want to poop?

Wolfdog is a dog full of energy, but nobody tells nothing about the fact that they are some cute little "tasmanian devils" when they are small. They find a great pleasure in chewing everything they can reach. You can't relax too much when you know you can't let this dog home alone and to expect to find everything right when you come home.

I am sorry but the truth is that this dog is made to be outside where he can explore and behave like a dog not like a cat and where are not so many restrictions like inside.

How long have you got a vlcak, 5 months? And you seriously claim you know anything about them? That's realy a good joke!

I clearly see you have a serious problem - you tend to think you know everything best. I don't want to sound negative but such approach is not very practical with this breed. I won't tell you why, you'll find it yourself sooner or later, .

I'm asking again: why have you started this topic if you wanted to hear one answer? It's your dog and you may keep her where you want. Experienced owners expressed their opinions, but you don't believe them. Fine with me - I respect your right to make mistakes.

22-12-2012, 07:53	#4
AMERICANI Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Planet Earth Posts: 111	where do they sleep? Considering the fact I have 9, I rotate them out. Our winters really have nothing on places like Poland So, the cold really isn't an issue. As far as the consideration of the nature within ourselves. as well as our dogs, the select ones for the time come in, but follow rules. The bond grows so much stronger when you maximize interaction with them. 9 is too many, and 3 are actually select for placing with other families. I don't have kids, don't closely interact with anyone with kids, or (for the moment) intend on having any. I relate my "pack" structure to the military, which is the lifestyle I am most accustomed to. My dogs don't sleep on the bed, they don't beg for food at the table, and they sit until released before welcoming guests or going out. I feel horrible that I can't spend 100% of my time with each one 100% of the time. CsVs are not wolves, but they do have more of the innate requirement to have a role within the pack than most dogs.

21-01-2013, 20:35	#6
Tana Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: city :Pitesti, country: Romania Posts: 23	Greetings, wow so many answers... In all af them i saw one thing:what a lot of people believe about their dogs, I saw a lot of human desires and hopes about their dogs. Nobody answered to the simply question, why the wolfdog was created in fact by the army and how much is their dog close to the natural way to live of their ancestors ? Is nothing about their hair inside the house and nothing about their POOP. Rona you know so much about our country or dogs,but in fact you do not know nothing. You presume everything and that is wrong. You will tell me Rona, that a wolfdog is like a cat when he want to poop?Wolfdog is a dog full of energy, but nobody tells nothing about the fact that they are some cute little "tasmanian devils" when they are small. They find a great pleasure in chewing everything they can reach. You can't relax too much when you know you can't let this dog home alone and to expect to find everything right when you come home. I am sorry but the truth is that this dog is made to be outside where he can explore and behave like a dog not like a cat and where are not so many restrictions like inside. I agree, the best is to go with your dog in wilderness, is where she/he is really happy. This is a second proof that wolfdog is happy outside the room , the house, even the garden can be too small for him. So i will keep the dog outside my house all the time. I was just curious to see how many did the same. Romania is not Syberia, the weather is like in all other central european countries so she will be fine outside. Now she has 5 months and she is outside for almost 2 months and half. My oppinion is that she will be more healthy and tough in long terms than a dog living inside. e will judge. I have 3 dogs with Tana and all of them live outside in the winter and play. No human can play with a dog like dogs play with each other so i think all are just fine. A nice day to you all

21-01-2013, 21:03	#8
avgrunn Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Trójmiasto Posts: 1,756	Well, so I guess my vlcak has no idea what he was created for , coz after some time spent outside he always knocks to our front window to let him in and then he greets us and lays very close to us. He is a dog who prefers to be with us than alone outside. Proof: That is how he prefers to sleep, close to his human not outside __________________ Ja & Urciowaty

21-12-2012, 12:51	#2
deocamdata Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Romania Posts: 27	My CSW has allays been outside. Last winter was few days with -21 and there was not any kind of problems. Now together with Karlos (my CSW) also outside I have a Malinois 7 months old. They sleep separately but during the day they are together and playing all the day ... So ... my opinion is the the dog is exactly like you grow it ... That doesn't mean that a very small puppy can be left outside in a very cold weather.

21-01-2013, 20:54	#7
vila Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 43	You should show some respect to a person with as much experience with Vlcaks as Rona. Unfortunately accidents with poop happen, but if you are unable to teach your dog house rules, maybe the answer isn't to lock the dogs outside the house but maybe you shouldn't own dogs? You do know that you must take the dogs for walks right? So they don't poop and pee indoor. Sounds like the big yard is just an excuse? ... And don't you even for one moment start to argue the history of the breed, because you obviously don't know much. Sure Vlcaks were created for a military purpose, it was an experiment but unfortunately that experiment failed, they didn't create the dog they wanted. It wasn't a disaster but they didn't know realistically what to expect. A Vlcak is far more a family dog than it is an unaffectionate robotic winter machine. You asked for advice, most people said their Vlcak is part of the family, part of the house and in some cases even part of the bed you go ahead and keep them out, probably the dogs will do just fine... I just don't understand how you can have big dogs and be bothered by some poop? ...And your dogs don't understand either.