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označenie je ale iná vec... ale úplné vyhodenie z databáze? alebo len inzerovanie? a nemyslím si, že každý kto má psa z týchto chovateľských staníc tým bude nadšený, pretože iste nechcel kupovať kríženca.
a pri CW - ide o všetky vrhy od 2004? narátala som cez 30 vrhov... takže aj napr. taký Gisotsu CW narodený v 2008? tým sa teraz dosť krylo aj v normálnych staniciach. bude aj on označený a všetky jeho vrhy blokované? trochu nechápem, ako to chcete regulovať, nakoľko pôjde o desiatky, môžno stovky psov... Čítala som o tých červených nosoch u čsv a aj o rôznych mixoch na anglickom fóre, ale označiť všetky vrhy po týchto psoch za "podozrivé", to vyvolá prinajmenšom riadnu búrku protestov od dotknutých majiteľov... I keď chápem túto ideu.
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p.s.: jo a pokiaľ máte jasné a jednoznačné DNA testy, že dané psy sú krížence, netreba to nahlásiť na FCI? odobrať vrhu papiere a FCI by malo zastaviť činnosť CHS? pokiaľ viem, tam je klauzula, že ak je dokázané kríženie a vydávanie falošných PP, bude zakázaná činnosť CHS.aspoň myslím, že to je takto nejako.
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And they blame Wolfdog.org for "PROMOTION" of the mixes because we "allow" the mixes owner to stay here and advertise their dogs as purebreed. Already extremely angry was the French breeder who bought the two Crying Wolf dogs and get red puppies because she had to remove from breeding not only both dogs which were not cheap. But she also had to remove all the line (all offsprings of Sybir and Thalia Crying Wolf). Can you imagine how angry were the owners? It is the reason why more and more people expect that we will make something against the breeders of mixes and their fake CsWs. But: we do not plan to remove any dogs from the database. The mixes will be put there as it was before. There will be only more markings of the suspected dogs... All PDL and Foresta incantata Saarlooses (and their offsprings) will be marked in the database and Saarloos Mixes (what they really are). The the "French Wolfdogs" (AWD-crosses bred by "de La Louve blanche" & co) will be marked as "Mixes" according to the rule: - whole litters where there are AWD-crosses will be marked as MIXES (in the database: (!_MIX_!)) - it was done so already before - new is: the parents of such dogs will be marked as possible mixes (in the database (?_MIX_?) because there is never sure if the mixes were done in the specific generation or one generation before). - all dogs coming from the kennels who breed/bred mixes (de Louba Tar, Passo del Lupo, Crying Wolf, Foresta Incantata) and the Saarloos kennels (for example: d'Emozioni Breizh, Inguz Felan, Sun Gifu) will be marked with (_!_) - it will be the warning for all owners and breeder that they can not be sure if the dogs coming from the mentioned kennels are pure. It will be their decision to use such dogs or not. At the same time more and more dog owners offer their help. More and more owners send the blood of their dogs to Antagene where everybody who own offspring of their dogs can check if it really match. Quote:
The reason is: the countries which are member of FCI are RESPONSIBLE for their pedigrees. If somebody will cheat pedigrees in CZ the CMKU(?)-your kennel club must care for it. It is the obligation of the FCI member country. CMKU can not say: we can not control it. Because in such case the CMKU would break the most important FCI rule and show that it is not able to control the breeders (to operate). DNA testing is one of the basic controls over the breeders. You ask what to do if the breeder do not want to give the DNA of the parents? My question is: WHY a breeder should do it if he/she has noting to hide. If a breeder do not want to give the blood of the parents it is already best proof that it is not responsible breeder who want to hide the cheating. There is no other explanation for it. None of the real breeders had something against making the DNA tests. Only the cheater are afraid of it. Quote:
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You do your ass or you're serious? Each child will be PDL MIX? Similarly, you care only about their own puppies to sell and not have competition: D nothing else .. unfortunately
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All PDL and Foresta incantata Saarlooses (and their offsprings) will be marked in the database and Saarloos Mixes (what they really are). Chápete vůbec rozdíl mezi Saarloosem a a F1 generací ch.s. Mutara? Foresta incantata zapsala svojí F2 do registru , ne jako ČSV, tak co jí tady očerňujete? |
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PS : All PDL (and their offsprings ) rozumím všechny!!!! Takže tu omluvu !! Last edited by RadeKKK; 23-02-2012 at 10:13. |
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Taky beru All PDL jako překlad všechny PDL
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