Norwegian ban on SW and CzW

Nebulosa · 28-11-2009, 18:06

And I fell ashame to know he have the same age as me.

After that I will start to hide this information.

PS: He hates comunists so much, but he wants a "comunist" dog breed... what paradox

Rona · 28-11-2009, 18:23

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Originally Posted by Nebulosa

And I fell ashame to know he have the same age as me.

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Originally Posted by Nebulosa

PS: He hates comunists so much, but he wants a "comunist" dog breed... what paradox

He knows very little about CSVs

He wrote on the Polish forum, that he will present the photos of his wolfdog and keep the breeder's name secret

Apparently he's not aware how the WD database works

XaedasKSP · 28-11-2009, 18:34

Well first of all I asked what have you achieved in all those years since 2003 by all of this hard work ? Nothing? Well then its more than obvious that the current government wont change anything no matter what you tell them if they havent done it in all those years. So it will take an another different government to change something.

As for the communist dog breed, well I really doubt that the persons who created the breed were really believing in communism and werent just forced to say they did all the breeding work in the name of communism, just like scientists were forced to work for the commies and all their achievments were counted for the glory of communism, like space rockets etc.

And if even Stalin, Lenin or Trotsky himself (dunno who is the greatest commie/socialist hero, since some commies say Stalin wasnt commie) had crossed the german sheperd with the carpathian wolf, then the dog wouldnt still be a commie dog....since the commies havent invented the german sheperd or the carpathian wolf.

BTW here is something that commies/socialists invented with dogs:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSrIkUXwsNk

and

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oj2SKJFQpI8

For all you socialism lovers, thats the socialist way of "inventing dogs".....

And as for the pictures of the dog....well have fun guessing where the dog is bought when I get the dog and post the picture...

Per Olav · 28-11-2009, 18:35

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Originally Posted by Rona

He knows very little about CSVs

He wrote on the Polish forum, that he will present the photos of his wolfdog and keep the breeder's name secret

Apparently he's not aware how the WD database works

And I'm guessing he knows lesser of computers. You don't "hide" by operating inside a network. Every IP-address, log on and log off is recorded and time stamped.

PS. Rona - When addressing our authoryties I'd like to record his activity on the Polish forum. A nickname by PM please

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XaedasKSP · 28-11-2009, 18:40

Well if you can track my IP and by this find out exactly where I live and who I am then come on go ask the police or who you are gonna ask to do it (I guess you will see its not so easy as you think) , it will be a nice cause to show people in Norway about how the socialist government can control us even on the net and monitor us all the time so we cant have private life....

BTW why dont you tell us what you have achieved by many years of hard work and when we can expect the Storting to vote about changing the law or when will "statsråder" even rethink the law.

Per Olav · 28-11-2009, 19:03

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Originally Posted by XaedasKSP

[--]it will be a nice cause to show people in Norway about how the socialist government can control us even on the net and monitor us all the time so we cant have private life....

BTW why dont you tell us what you have achieved by many years of hard work and when we can expect the Storting to vote about changing the law or when will "statsråder" even rethink the law.

I suppose you never heard of Echelon or the EU Data Storage Directive ( EU-direktiv 2006/24/EF) commented in Norwegian on Wiki?

Changing a law is not easily done as everyone should know. Neither is it our Members of Parliament the people who do the "rethinking". I strongly advice you to get some knowledge of how democracy works and how making laws and changing laws is done.
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Rona · 28-11-2009, 19:19

Dear Admin,
Could you please punish XaedasKSP for spamming TWO wofdog forums with irrelevant, political posts?

Although I've got a remarkable record of struggling with communism in Poland long before this ignorant, cynical boy was born, I consider his obsessive 'political' writing noxious.

Who is for?

Per Olav · 28-11-2009, 19:25

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Originally Posted by Rona

Who is for?

Both hands above my head and my feet are struggling to follow

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XaedasKSP · 28-11-2009, 19:30

As long as the politics are the ones preventing people in normally keeping CSV in Norway then its absolutely relevant to discuss it....

Especially when one member of the forum claims he is working on chaning the law in Norway and an another one claims that the CSV is created by communists and therefore a "communist dog" then I have to be allowed to answer both of them. Since what is being debated here is a strictly connected to the politics....

And I see you have been taught in this "struggle" that cenzorship is a very nice method of silencing people who say something against the governmental practice? Wonder how you struggled.....by watching what people do and reporting it to the closest "milicja-station" or ZOMO ?

Admin will hopefully understand that when people come with political based arguments to me then I have to answer them politically too. And isnt this part of the forum named Clubs & law ?? Law is based on politics....let us have freedom of speech!

Nebulosa · 28-11-2009, 19:34

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Originally Posted by XaedasKSP

Socialist way of make dogs blablabla

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Originally Posted by Rona

Dear Admin,
Could you please punish XaedasKSP for spamming TWO wofdog forums with irrelevant, political posts?

Although I've got a remarkable record of struggling with communism in Poland long before this ignorant, cynical boy was born, I consider his obsessive 'political' writing noxious.

Who is for?

Of course, for Captain Picard sake... 7 days frozen as warn , if Admin dont kick him out first, next time of this behaviour I will ban him forever.

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Now 3 weeks because the clone, next and will be forever.

Per Olav · 28-11-2009, 19:47

Thanks

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Mikael · 28-11-2009, 22:32

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Originally Posted by Nebulosa

Of course, for Captain Picard sake... 7 days frozen as warn , if Admin dont kick him out first, next time of this behaviour I will ban him forever.

I vote yes to….

god I like democracy

By by Schoolboy

Thanks Nebb good work

Very best regards / Mikael

XaedasKSP · 20-12-2009, 03:49

Ok since the forum is politically cenzored then I shall not post anything more about politics. (But I have to just commend that "Per Olav" himself on his homepage that he was referring to, have written that the person who wished to revote the law in order to get the CzWs banned in Norway was Kristin Halvorsen the leader of SV (Sosialistisk Venstreparti) and first then CzWs became banned. So to say that its not a case of right or left side of politics is strange after personally writing about who pushed on to get the law about banning CzW, but I shall not write more about politics this is the last thing I had to say just so you know that banning me was unfair)

Ah and as for you Mikael, well as much as I wish I could say in direct words what I think, I shall not do it since responding to your post would probably get me banned 10xtimes....

As for the case of the dog, then I have found a perfect solution, the Saarloos Wolfhond which is 100 % legal in Norway. This way I can have a "wolfie" and have it legally, in addition after I have read more about this race I found out that its even better for the place where I live than a CzW.

In addition I think that you could edit the title of the thread since it suggests that Saarloos is to banned in Norway while this is not the case and people who look on the forum might get confused and think that both of the races are banned. Instead it could be an idea to inform about SW and that its legal in Norway so people who live in Norway and want a CzW can read about the less known race of SWs and see if they maybe can be just as happy owning a SW like they would be with a CzW.

Since SWs are a much more rare race than CzW from what I have found out then, there should be some information about them here instead of the confusing title telling that both dogs are banned in Norway which is not true. People who are looking for a wolfdog do most often find the CzW as the first result and absolutely no info about SW and then they dont know that it is possible to have a wolfdog legally in Norway and that this possibility is the SW (all wolfhybrids and other wolfmixes are actually too illegal like the CzW so SW is the only option in Norway).

28-11-2009, 18:06	#1
Nebulosa Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Rio Grande do Sul Posts: 1,334	And I fell ashame to know he have the same age as me. After that I will start to hide this information. PS: He hates comunists so much, but he wants a "comunist" dog breed... what paradox __________________

28-11-2009, 18:40	#5
XaedasKSP Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Skien/Oslo Posts: 83	Well if you can track my IP and by this find out exactly where I live and who I am then come on go ask the police or who you are gonna ask to do it (I guess you will see its not so easy as you think) , it will be a nice cause to show people in Norway about how the socialist government can control us even on the net and monitor us all the time so we cant have private life.... BTW why dont you tell us what you have achieved by many years of hard work and when we can expect the Storting to vote about changing the law or when will "statsråder" even rethink the law. Last edited by XaedasKSP; 28-11-2009 at 18:42. Reason: added something

28-11-2009, 19:19	#7
Rona Distinguished Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Kraków Posts: 3,509	Dear Admin, Could you please punish XaedasKSP for spamming TWO wofdog forums with irrelevant, political posts? Although I've got a remarkable record of struggling with communism in Poland long before this ignorant, cynical boy was born, I consider his obsessive 'political' writing noxious. Who is for? __________________

28-11-2009, 19:30	#9
XaedasKSP Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Skien/Oslo Posts: 83	As long as the politics are the ones preventing people in normally keeping CSV in Norway then its absolutely relevant to discuss it.... Especially when one member of the forum claims he is working on chaning the law in Norway and an another one claims that the CSV is created by communists and therefore a "communist dog" then I have to be allowed to answer both of them. Since what is being debated here is a strictly connected to the politics.... And I see you have been taught in this "struggle" that cenzorship is a very nice method of silencing people who say something against the governmental practice? Wonder how you struggled.....by watching what people do and reporting it to the closest "milicja-station" or ZOMO ? Admin will hopefully understand that when people come with political based arguments to me then I have to answer them politically too. And isnt this part of the forum named Clubs & law ?? Law is based on politics....let us have freedom of speech!

28-11-2009, 19:47	#11
Per Olav Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 395	Thanks -- po

20-12-2009, 03:49	#13
XaedasKSP Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Skien/Oslo Posts: 83	Ok since the forum is politically cenzored then I shall not post anything more about politics. (But I have to just commend that "Per Olav" himself on his homepage that he was referring to, have written that the person who wished to revote the law in order to get the CzWs banned in Norway was Kristin Halvorsen the leader of SV (Sosialistisk Venstreparti) and first then CzWs became banned. So to say that its not a case of right or left side of politics is strange after personally writing about who pushed on to get the law about banning CzW, but I shall not write more about politics this is the last thing I had to say just so you know that banning me was unfair) Ah and as for you Mikael, well as much as I wish I could say in direct words what I think, I shall not do it since responding to your post would probably get me banned 10xtimes.... As for the case of the dog, then I have found a perfect solution, the Saarloos Wolfhond which is 100 % legal in Norway. This way I can have a "wolfie" and have it legally, in addition after I have read more about this race I found out that its even better for the place where I live than a CzW. In addition I think that you could edit the title of the thread since it suggests that Saarloos is to banned in Norway while this is not the case and people who look on the forum might get confused and think that both of the races are banned. Instead it could be an idea to inform about SW and that its legal in Norway so people who live in Norway and want a CzW can read about the less known race of SWs and see if they maybe can be just as happy owning a SW like they would be with a CzW. Since SWs are a much more rare race than CzW from what I have found out then, there should be some information about them here instead of the confusing title telling that both dogs are banned in Norway which is not true. People who are looking for a wolfdog do most often find the CzW as the first result and absolutely no info about SW and then they dont know that it is possible to have a wolfdog legally in Norway and that this possibility is the SW (all wolfhybrids and other wolfmixes are actually too illegal like the CzW so SW is the only option in Norway).