Saarloos mixes by "Crying Wolf" kennel (CSV red colored)

[yukidomari]

I'm am a bit confused as to which dogs would be helpful to resolve this problem.

There are a lot of names mentioned on the threads, such as Galiba but then some others saying it is not only Galiba but perhaps some litters.

Can someone make a list of the dogs or litters that could be used to end this mystery?

[Shadowlands]

Originally Posted by yukidomari

I'm am a bit confused as to which dogs would be helpful to resolve this problem.

There are a lot of names mentioned on the threads, such as Galiba but then some others saying it is not only Galiba but perhaps some litters.

Can someone make a list of the dogs or litters that could be used to end this mystery?

Great idea Then people who share their lives with the offspring of these dogs can maybe get together and form DNA databanks to prove or disprove the suspicions. It is not good having these suspicions around and to not even be sure if your dog is affected or not. Closure of some form is needed - and soon!

[Vaiva]

Originally Posted by yukidomari

I'm am a bit confused as to which dogs would be helpful to resolve this problem.

There are a lot of names mentioned on the threads, such as Galiba but then some others saying it is not only Galiba but perhaps some litters.

Can someone make a list of the dogs or litters that could be used to end this mystery?

As far as I understand (but I can still not get it right ), some dogs, who are officially children of Galiba, might be in fact children of the red saarlos.

[Morian]

and at polish forum it was written that red saarlos-alike pups were born by cryings from "r", "s" and "t" litters

[yukidomari]

Originally Posted by Vaiva

As far as I understand (but I can still not get it right ), some dogs, who are officially children of Galiba, might be in fact children of the red saarlos.

Originally Posted by Morian

and at polish forum it was written that red saarlos-alike pups were born by cryings from "r", "s" and "t" litters

OK, so does that mean that these litters' DNA would be helpful or not?

There was some information posted that said that there was no way to test for paternity from say 2 half siblings that are said to share the same father, one would need the father's DNA as well.

What I am asking is, which dogs can be TESTED by DNA and be useful to solve this puzzle, not just those which are said to be affected litters?

[Nebulosa]

Originally Posted by yukidomari

What I am asking is, which dogs can be TESTED by DNA and be useful to solve this puzzle, not just those which are said to be affected litters?

We need the blood of Dvorak, the red Saarloos and possible father of these litters, to compare in paternity test with its possible sons (dogs which had red or "saarloos looking like" pups).

Of course praying that there was only Dvorak at Edith kennel, and no other Saarloos.

[yukidomari]

Originally Posted by Nebulosa

We need the blood of Dvorak, the red Saarloos and possible father of these litters, to compare in paternity test with its possible sons (dogs which had red or "saarloos looking like" pups).

Of course praying that there was only Dvorak at Edith kennel, and no other Saarloos.

So if the blood of Dvorak is never gotten, this mystery will not be solved by DNA?

[Jennin Lauma]

I still think that comparison between supposed siblings & half-siblings can be done.
I know cases in Finland where such has been made with results that leave no questions if the dogs are truly siblings or not. Allthough these cases I know have not been wolfdogs but other breeds.