Health results (also DM!!) in the Wolfdog.org database

CDaniela · 06-10-2011, 22:31

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Originally Posted by Baz

How & who should take the sample? Can I ask my vet to take a sample in Hořovice for example & will the results be considered official?

Pokud chcete aby byly vaše výsledky považovány za oficiální, musíte poslat vzorek do některé z akreditovaných laboratoří a samozřejmě ho zaplatit. Pokud vám stačí výsledek neoficiální, přijeďte se psem na jeden z podzimních svodů a bonitací v ČR a nechte ho v rámci výzkumu DM odebrat a otestovat zdarma - s neoficiálním výsledkem.

Baz · 06-10-2011, 22:47

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Originally Posted by CDaniela

Pokud chcete aby byly vaše výsledky považovány za oficiální, musíte poslat vzorek do některé z akreditovaných laboratoří a samozřejmě ho zaplatit. Pokud vám stačí výsledek neoficiální, přijeďte se psem na jeden z podzimních svodů a bonitací v ČR a nechte ho v rámci výzkumu DM odebrat a otestovat zdarma - s neoficiálním výsledkem.

Díky za informace. Je to dobrý nápad, já jsem za Skotska, takže nechci platit

ale chci pomoct, oficiální nebo neoficiální, pro mě to jedno...

michaelundinaeichhorn · 06-10-2011, 23:38

Maybe we should continue in Gaelic

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koboldine · 06-10-2011, 23:59

*gg* which Gaelic dialect do you prefer: irish, scotish, or welsh?

michaelundinaeichhorn · 07-10-2011, 02:25

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Originally Posted by koboldine

*gg* which Gaelic dialect do you prefer: irish, scotish, or welsh?

Madainn mhath, Koboldine.

In that case probably the Scottish version.

Slán,
Michael

Baz · 07-10-2011, 10:23

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Originally Posted by michaelundinaeichhorn

Maybe we should continue in Gaelic

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Apologies for writing in Czech in the English forum a bit naughty I know, I'm from Scotland but ashamed to say that my Czech is much better than my Gaelic

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Originally Posted by CDaniela

Pokud chcete aby byly vaše výsledky považovány za oficiální, musíte poslat vzorek do některé z akreditovaných laboratoří a samozřejmě ho zaplatit. Pokud vám stačí výsledek neoficiální, přijeďte se psem na jeden z podzimních svodů a bonitací v ČR a nechte ho v rámci výzkumu DM odebrat a otestovat zdarma - s neoficiálním výsledkem.

For those who don't understand Czech, Daniela was saying that it's possible to have your dog tested for free at the Czech club meetings & bonitations this autumn as part of the university study, only the results won't be official. Worth knowing for those of you who are considering travelling.

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Originally Posted by CDaniela

Na českém foru běží diskuze o DM, koukněte tam. Tady by nás brzy všichni sežrali (za češtinu).

Ještě jednou, diky za informace Danielo, tam budu koukat.

Shadowlands · 07-10-2011, 11:20

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Originally Posted by Baz

For those who don't understand Czech, Daniela was saying that it's possible to have your dog tested for free at the Czech club meetings & bonitations this autumn as part of the university study, only the results won't be official. Worth knowing for those of you who are considering travelling.

Does anyone have details of these upcoming meetings (or any in other countries, for that matter)?

Baz · 07-10-2011, 12:19

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Originally Posted by Shadowlands

Does anyone have details of these upcoming meetings (or any in other countries, for that matter)?

I've got some details, 15/10 club meeting & bonitations in Frýdlant nad Ostravicí & 22/10 bonitations in Roudnice nad Labem (I will go there), I think they may be the last 2 dates for "free" tests judging by what has been written in the Czech forum on DM, I'll ask Daniela to clarify though.

Baz · 07-10-2011, 12:39

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Originally Posted by Shadowlands

Does anyone have details of these upcoming meetings (or any in other countries, for that matter)?

So I've had a look at the calender for the Czech club http://www.cswolfdog.cz/index.php?op...ents&Itemid=54 & it seems that the dates in my previous post will be the last time to take swabs (I'll still check with Daniela though), however if it's just meetings that you're interested in then http://www.cswolfdog.cz/index.php?op...y=17&Itemid=54 might be of interest to you as well. You can try using the translate button at the side of the page, it doesn't do a great job into English but you should get the drift. Here in Czech it's traditional to eat carp as the Christmas meal & every year there is an event with Mr Karel Hartl, for more details contact Lenka, I'm pretty sure that she speaks English & her user name is Marianka W.

CDaniela · 07-10-2011, 08:41

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Originally Posted by Baz

Díky za informace. Je to dobrý nápad, já jsem za Skotska, takže nechci platit

ale chci pomoct, oficiální nebo neoficiální, pro mě to jedno...

Na českém foru běží diskuze o DM, koukněte tam. Tady by nás brzy všichni sežrali (za češtinu).

Baz · 07-10-2011, 13:05

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Originally Posted by CDaniela

Pokud chcete aby byly vaše výsledky považovány za oficiální, musíte poslat vzorek do některé z akreditovaných laboratoří a samozřejmě ho zaplatit. Pokud vám stačí výsledek neoficiální, přijeďte se psem na jeden z podzimních svodů a bonitací v ČR a nechte ho v rámci výzkumu DM odebrat a otestovat zdarma - s neoficiálním výsledkem.

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Originally Posted by Baz

For those who don't understand Czech, Daniela was saying that it's possible to have your dog tested for free at the Czech club meetings & bonitations this autumn as part of the university study, only the results won't be official. Worth knowing for those of you who are considering travelling.

It seems perhaps that due to funding reasons, Daniela is primarily interested in Czech dogs (ie dogs resident in the Czech Republic), so I'm not sure if my earlier advice to come to one of the meetings was a great idea. I think the same maybe applies to postal samples too. Daniela can you clarify your position for us please?

Rona · 07-10-2011, 14:01

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Originally Posted by Baz

It seems perhaps that due to funding reasons, Daniela is primarily interested in Czech dogs (ie dogs resident in the Czech Republic), so I'm not sure if my earlier advice to come to one of the meetings was a great idea.

Who told you this?

Daniela has tested most of Polish & Lithuanian dogs, also ones from Slovakia and has samples sent from the UK too!

PS Daniela, could you tell us when the stage of gathering samples for the DM study closes? While talking with people I've got the impression many think it'll be open forever, but it doesn't make any sense to me

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CDaniela · 07-10-2011, 14:08

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Originally Posted by Rona

Who told you this?

Daniela has tested most of Polish & Lithuanian dogs, also ones from Slovakia and has samples sent from the UK too!

Yes, but withim the research degenerative myelopathy, tests are free. We are not a commercial lab, not expose certificate.

Rona · 07-10-2011, 14:21

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Originally Posted by CDaniela

We are not a commercial lab, not expose certificate.

"Look not a gift horse in the mouth."

Seriously: we're very pleased with what you've offered the vlcak community worldwide

Baz · 07-10-2011, 14:35

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Originally Posted by Rona

Who told you this?

Daniela has tested most of Polish & Lithuanian dogs, also ones from Slovakia and has samples sent from the UK too!

So apologies, I was reading the Czech pages as well as the English & mis-interpreted a post from Daniela where she was trying to encourage more Czech owners to have their dogs tested too & not just foreign owners. I didn't want to "invite" everyone to these events without first checking with Daniela first, that's all.

Baz · 07-10-2011, 15:04

Can anybody briefly explain the genetic "law" of how the DM genes are passed on (or link me to a thread if there is one)

I'm guessing
DM/DM sire x DM/DM dam = DM/DM litter, correct?
N/N sire x N/N dam = N/N litter, also correct?

What about other combinations?

Thanks

CDaniela · 07-10-2011, 15:11

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Originally Posted by Baz

Can anybody briefly explain the genetic "law" of how the DM genes are passed on (or link me to a thread if there is one)

I'm guessing
DM/DM sire x DM/DM dam = DM/DM litter, correct?
N/N sire x N/N dam = N/N litter, also correct?

What about other combinations?

Thanks

http://www.cswolfdog.cz/index.php?vi...tent&Itemid=80

Shadowlands · 07-10-2011, 15:27

Great link, thank you Daniela

tupacs2legs · 07-10-2011, 14:04

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Originally Posted by Baz

It seems perhaps that due to funding reasons, Daniela is primarily interested in Czech dogs (ie dogs resident in the Czech Republic), so I'm not sure if my earlier advice to come to one of the meetings was a great idea. I think the same maybe applies to postal samples too. Daniela can you clarify your position for us please?

I hope not....that's where my sample has gone!!

CDaniela · 07-10-2011, 14:15

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Originally Posted by tupacs2legs

I hope not....that's where my sample has gone!!

Still accept samples of foreign dogs.

06-10-2011, 23:38	#3
michaelundinaeichhorn Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Bad Dürkheim Posts: 2,249	Maybe we should continue in Gaelic...

06-10-2011, 23:59	#4
koboldine Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 472	gg which Gaelic dialect do you prefer: irish, scotish, or welsh? __________________ Kein Mensch darf mir meine Schwächen so deutlich zeigen, wie meine (Wolfs-)Hunde es tun.

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Baz Junior Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Křivoklát Posts: 62	Can anybody briefly explain the genetic "law" of how the DM genes are passed on (or link me to a thread if there is one) I'm guessing DM/DM sire x DM/DM dam = DM/DM litter, correct? N/N sire x N/N dam = N/N litter, also correct? What about other combinations? Thanks

07-10-2011, 15:27	#18
Shadowlands Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Vidin Posts: 391	Great link, thank you Daniela