Health results (also DM!!) in the Wolfdog.org database

[Rona]

Originally Posted by Baz

How & who should take the sample? Can I ask my vet to take a sample in Hořovice for example & will the results be considered official?

I took my dog to the vet, asked her to check her chip, take the material with a swab, dry it, put into the envelope prepared earlier with my dog's name & chip no & my e-mail, seal it with a stamp and send to Daniela.

Results of the dog's family immediately verify his/her result, so no cheating is possible just like errors are spotted very soon (see the case of Eury). I had similar doubts when the testing started, but the more dogs are tested, the more the results are reliable.

There are people who belive in miracles and many strange things keep happening in their kennels, which BTW they never bother to explain but the rest of the results fit the "family pattern" perfectly.

[Nebulosa]

Then, if there is an dwarf pup in the litter mean both parents might be carrier of the gene, even if they haven't the official results, will it be published?

[mijke]

Originally Posted by Nebulosa

Then, if there is an dwarf pup in the litter mean both parents might be carrier of the gene, even if they haven't the official results, will it be published?

Maybe I then can ask all the CsW dwarf owners for permission to publish
Sorry just a joke!

I know owners who did not want to harm the breeder (because he/she is a good one and did have bad luck with the combination) And that was the only reason these owners did not want to share the test info.

Also there are owners with "probably dwarfs" , but I'll never publish this without official test results.
This all is for me a very complicated matter......
Because:

I know some people or clubs in several countries still deny dwarfism is an issue in the breed.......
I know there are more CsW's carrier of this mutation then were ever published.....
I know breeders who have (proven) carriers breed with no tested dogs.....

So sometimes I become very sad about this all...........

[Rona]

Originally Posted by mijke

Maybe I then can ask all the CsW dwarf owners for permission to publish
Sorry just a joke!

Mijke, but the DM results of the majority of dogs can be calculated anyway on the basis of their family members' results.
E.g.if the pups owners of certian litter test their dogs, openly publish the results and in that litter the results are n/n, n/dm, dm/dm it is clear that both parents must be n/dm. So it does not matter if the parents' owner publish the results or not - they just become "visible"

Should DWARF test be cheaper and thus more available and common - the effect would be the same - impossiblity of hiding the results by breeders, (unlike in the case of HD or ED)

Thanks to Daniela's project DM result is no longer a taboo, but becomes a "public" issue.

For me struggling for the secrecy of the DM results is ... suspicious. If somebody claims he breeds transparently he should not try to hide them, even if they are unofficial (provided this is clearly stated!)

[CDaniela]

the basic difference between HD, ED and DM:
For dysplasia - we assess (select) phenotype
For degenerative myelopathy - we assess (select) genotype

[koboldine]

a scotts-man... great

tapadh leidh, cuideachd sidh!

hm...das ist reflexiv, oder?

[Baz]

Originally Posted by koboldine

a scotts-man... great

tapadh leidh, cuideachd sidh!

hm...das ist reflexiv, oder?

Gälisch, nicht verstehe. Sorry

[CDaniela]

I am not afraid of fraud. Breeders want to know true results of their dogs, they want to work with them. Many breeders only tested for their needs without publication.